Re: theos-talk Fw: [CosmicCookies] 110623
Jul 05, 2011 08:33 AM
by M. Sufilight
Hej John and friends
My views are:
I almost forgot your post... Here are a few words to consider.
Other readers might have something to add.
About Japan: The present day accepted theories about tectonic plates are being disputed even by several scientists (in India, China, USA, France etc.), but since they are not in the majority or among the most wellknown, we do not hear about it much. H. P. Blavatsky's words in the Secret Doctrine can clearly not be said to be in agreement with these ideas about the tectonic plates.
Yes, the Mayan Calendar alignment with the galaxy is a bit false. Even NASA says so. But NASA also says, that there already for several years have been an alignment in a certain sense.
Se these articles by NASA and search "Galaxy":
2012: Beginning of the End or Why the World Won't End?
http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/2012.html
The Great 2012 Doomsday Scare
http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/2012-guest.html
Yes. Blavatsky says in the Transactions from the Blavatsky Lodge (p. 46-48), that the Sun and the Moon covered other planets. The Sun covered a planet named Vulcan (not discovered yet, despite Blavatsky's claims. Maybe it is etheric?) said to have an orbit near the Sun, an intra-mercurial planet. The Moon is covered by another planet, which sometimes can be seen near the Moon at night and has a retrograde motion. (Alice A. Bailey and others call it Uranus, but I am not at all sure about that. Because Blavatsky reject that Uranus is a sacred planet in the Secret Doctrine. But which planet in the solar system was retrograde at the time of the meeting in the Blavatsky Lodge in London in that year and month?) And elsewhere she says that this was known by the initiates in the old days, and not by all astronomers.
Yet, I wonder about whether some of the oldest of the ancient calendars by Asuramaya was not using esoteric symbols and the 7 keys to the mystery language, the so-called Bija corrections.
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A very interesting article is available on the Internet. I wonder whether its author - Vigyan Prasar - know more than he reveals about Asuramayas calendar?
Chinthamani Ragoonathachary and Secularisation of Time
During the Late Nineteenth Century Madras Presidency
Venkateswaran T. V.
Vigyan Prasar, New Delhi, India
"Chintamani Ragoonathachary, a ânativeâ astronomer took
the initiative to modify and publish a new Panchang (almanac)
and thereby produced a change in the calanderical
system followed in the Tamil region. Inspired by the modern
astronomy, this effort towards modernization of Panchang
is an effort towards secularization of time. To engender
reform he utilized popularization of astronomy. It is argued
that this project of modernization by Chinthamani
Ragoonathachari is not a colonial project but a project of
ânativeâ elites to secularizing time in Tamil with the aim of
meeting the needs of modern industrial society."
.......
"Chintamani Ragoonathachary was an assistant to Norman
Pogson, the British Government Astronomer and head of
the Madras Observatory from 1861-1891. Then the focus
of the observatory was the study of variable stars and asteroids."
.......
"The Panchangs are prepared not based on careful observations
but based upon âformulasâ handed down by ancient
founding astronomers/ astrologers (Like Aryabhata,
Bhaskara, Varahamihira, etc). As suggested by the founder
of the Siddhantha school (Say Aryabhata or Brahmagupta),
certain corrections are made to the results obtained by applying
the formula (called Bija) to get the âtrueâ position.
There are two classes of almanacs in use; one called
Siddhantha Panchang and the other Drigganitta Panchang.
Another type, more prevalent in Southern India, Vakya
Panchang, is a type of Siddantha Panchang based upon
Siddhantha of Aryabhata with certain corrections (Bija) as
the basis. Most of the Tamil region followed Vakya
Panchang. Vakya means group of words, and as mnemonics,
letters of the word representing numbers."
.......
"During the 1880s, Native public opinion, a daily published
from Madras was abuzz with letters from its readers on the
debate. Traditional Panchang computers, native personalities
of public standing and many others recorded their view
on the subject. Some argued that Ragoonathacharyâs
Drigganitha Panchang is good only for predicting eclipses
precisely, but is yet to be proved suitable for calculating
tithi, nakshatra and so on. Few others stated that
Ragoonathacharyaâs Drig is complete in all respects, others
stated that Drig system has no authority of established
works of Rishis and hence this modern method could not
be accepted. A section argued that while Drig is useful for
actual observation of eclipses and so on, they doubted its
utility with respect to religious rites and rituals or for computing
astrological predictions. One of the clinching facts
that turned the tide was the computation by Ragoonathachary
of the 1868 total solar eclipse. While the prediction of the
August 18, 1868 eclipse by Ragoonathachari was with an
error of about 12 seconds, the error factor of even the best
of Siddhantis was about 24 minutes."
.......
"By winning over religious sects, engaging in public debates,
organizing public events, publishing popular books accessible
to the lay reader, Ragoonathachary was able to make a
dent in the public opinion and could garner acceptance for
the need to changeover. In fact it is noteworthy that the
colonial government issued its order on the calendar
standardisation only in 1878, well after the major religious
sects accepted the Drig system."
http://web.gnowledge.org/episteme3/pro_pdfs/04-tvv.pdf
H. P: Blavatsky was very well aware of what went on in Madras in these days also before 1879, and this can be seen from the below words.
Chinthamani Ragoonathachary was mentioned briefly in the Secret Doctrine by H. P. Blavatsky, Vol. II, p. 50-51 footnote also, see also footnote on p. 68.
"From fragments of immensely old works attributed to the Atlantean astronomer, and found in Southern India, the calendar elsewhere men-tioned was compiled by two very learned Brahmins* in 1884 and 1885. The work is proclaimed by the best Pundits as faultless â from the Brahmanical standpoint â and thus far relates to the chronology of the orthodox teachings."
[FOOTNOTE]
"The "Tirukkanda Panchanga" for the Kali Yug 4986, by Chintamany Raghanaracharya, son of the famous Government astronomer of Madras, and Tartakamala Venkata Krishna Rao."
http://www.phx-ult-lodge.org/SDVolume2.htm
The above are just my views.
I do hope, that you might be able to use it for something good.
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A sidenote:
I just saw the fllowing video by David Reigle:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBfqraGndG8
David Reigle here forwards the views which he also had stated in his 1991 article, (http://www.easterntradition.org/dk%20and%20kalachakra.pdf ) ---- namely that the much of the content in the five Alice A. Bailey books (Esoteric Psychology I, Esoteric Psychology II, Esoteric Astrology, Esoteric Healing, Rays and Initiations) are to be found in the EXOTERIC Kalachakra Tantra (ie. the exoteric - the outer Dzyan Stanzas with many blinds and errors, See BCW, Vol. XIV, p. 422-423) - in the Intro, chapter 1, 2, 3. Chapter 4 + 5 are esoteric in content, and chapter 5 heavy esoteric and perhaps only understood somewhat by a few handfuls of Buddhist today (officially). And the chapters 4 + 5 in the Kalachakra Tantras are not covered in the Alice A. Bailey books in the officially known EXOTERIC Kalachakra Tantras. This is what I got.
So this is just showing me, that the Alice A. Bailey books are on not on a very high level esoterically speaking.
M. Sufilight
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Sent: Monday, July 04, 2011 8:44 PM
Subject: Re: theos-talk Fw: [CosmicCookies] 110623
Cass, Morten,
Weeeeeell, I have tiny disagreement about Japan sinking under the ocean. Japan is sitting on top of another subduction plate which is diving under Japan and raising Japan. The only sinking I saw was due to the Huge Quake and it's Tsunami which inundation small regions of the coast line but not 99 % of Japan and the areac near the coast where in a small depth relaitive to the size and mass above water of Japan were made so sink due to "Multifaction" causing the soil to separate and liquify and sink in relatively small regions of the coast near the Quakes epicenter. I recommend taking a peek using Google Earth, there are KML application on Google to see the features that happened.
About the 2012 Maya Calendar Alignment with the Galaxy Center it actually is not aligned to the center of our Galaxy but misses it by 7 degree's to the west., the significance is about it happening on the Winter Solstice for the Northern Hemisphere and it won't happen on the Winter Solstice again in the triple "Sun-Earth- Galactic Center-Winter Solstice" Alignment for another Great year of 25920 years. Also you know when you read about the Mayan Calendar it is all about the the Sun-Earth- Venus- Galaxy relationship and they don't seem to indicate any stars involved in the alignment. The 260 day cycle is about Venus rather than a star.
Ancient Civilizations did not have knowledge of Uranus, Neptune, Pluto at all Astronomically, they mentioned "7" Planets but included the Sun and Earth's Moon as "planets" when they are not planets in any sense. They added the Sun and Moon (2 0f the 7 ) to Mercury, Mars, Venus, Jupiter, and Saturn (the other 5 of the 7). This means that they could not had an Astrology based on Modern Astrology that includes the use of all the recently discovered Planets of Uranus, Neptune and Pluto in addition to the ancient planets so-called. The Minor "vagabonds" of Vulcan, Phaeton and another had not a regularity to them even as objects that can be sighted with for any consistent use in astrology, augury, or even astronomy, they are interesting and stimulating to wonder abou,t but not much more can be had to know due to their long absence.
Here are a couple of links to review it all:
The Actual Astronomy of 2012 --- an essay by Thomas Rezzato
>>>http://www.infinitelymystical.com/essays/2012-astronomy.html<<<
and the Video for it
>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGPcjMe6Qlw&feature=related<<<
About the discussion on Astrology, here is a link about "Sephariel" the famous Astrologer who was a personal friend of Madame Blavatsky and a Member of her Group name in true life Walter Old who Blavatsky lovingly called "That Astral Tramp" because he roamed in his astral body around the house they both lived in at night .
Sepharial's Kaleidoscope, the collection of Walter Old's Magazine series whein he published many secrets he was unwilling to put in Books he wrote that had permanent shelf lives. There is a neat Biography of him also.
>>>http://www.sacredscience.com/archive/Sepharial-Kaleidoscope.htm<<<
Here is a page with many useful Maya Links
>>>http://www.mayan-calendar.com/links.html<<<
Also a little enjoyment a kitty on a boat at sea meets the Dolphins and falls in love with them and even signs to the Dolphins that he/she is now "yours" .The Doplhins is so happen to own a cat he goes and gets other Dolphins to show them his new property lol!
>>> http://www.wimp.com/catdolphins/ <<<
Enjoy,
John
----- Original Message -----
From: "M. Sufilight" <global-theosophy@WLxL74ssA38BvgVNTlwlkeLFjTtq_sGUsZzwz_L_SCnh1NX5bll43Pki_GXgdQP3pTZO3HzlxhNZRr3DKWb6tDuin8XMyw.yahoo.invalid>
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 11:47:39 PM
Subject: Re: theos-talk Fw: [CosmicCookies] 110623
Dear Cass and friends
My views are:
Perhaps. But in the previous post you wrote:
"----- Original Message -----
From: Cass Silva
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 2:03 AM
Subject: Re: theos-talk Fw: [CosmicCookies] 110623
If you guys aren't aware of the disturbing and changing weather patterns that are occuring at the moment you must be residing in Plato's cave. Things are changing, Blavatsky was right, Japan, as she predicted, would be under water. Whether it is coincidence that these events are occuring as we approach the Mayan 2012 calendar or if this is another minor cycle we can only guess at, but what cannot be disregarded is the fact that mother nature is addressing an imbalance."
M. Sufilight says:
Now you tell me, that you are only referring to astronomy and not astrology in the above?
The above from you might be viewed as astronomy - but it is as I read it clearly Astrological in content.
I am aware of that you later in the next posts were referring to astronomy, but I also dealt with that in my posts to you.
When I am not rejecting the science of Astrology, I will of course not reject the science on Astronomy.
But let is just talk about astronomy while we talk about predicting events like 2012 and full-moon events, if that is better to you. Okay?
- - -
Cass wrote:
"Perhaps you should ask yourself why did the Egyptians and why did the Mayans place so much energy into mapping the stars?"
M. Sufilight says:
Becase they knew about astronomy and astrology to a certain extend. I will refer to my previous e-mail. Because it seem to me that you did not read it carefully enough.
The big question to me is why you seem to reject the Law of Karma, while you talk about the influences the stars have on humanity?
Are you rejecting that the Law of Karma is closely related to astronomical influences from the Stars, and generate a psychological impact in humans, and thereby is related to Astrology?
M. Sufilight
----- Original Message -----
From: Cass Silva
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 2:23 AM
Subject: Re: theos-talk Fw: [CosmicCookies] 110623
Morten,
I am not talking about Astrology I am talking about Astronomy. The stars and planets effect us on a daily basis, their alignments bring about certain events in the world, all of which we are not as yet sure about. Certainly data is available to suggest that full moon events increase crime rates. Events in the stars present opportune times for the particular staging of world events. Perhaps you should ask yourself why did the Egyptians and why did the Mayans place so much energy into mapping the stars?
Cass
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>From: M. Sufilight < global-theosophy@WLxL74ssA38BvgVNTlwlkeLFjTtq_sGUsZzwz_L_SCnh1NX5bll43Pki_GXgdQP3pTZO3HzlxhNZRr3DKWb6tDuin8XMyw.yahoo.invalid >
>To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Wednesday, 29 June 2011 4:55 PM
>Subject: Re: theos-talk Fw: [CosmicCookies] 110623
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>Dear Cass and friends
>
>My views are:
>
>I think you misunderstood my questions, because I did not explain enough.
>
>Again ask yourself the following question:
>Why should any particular moment in the whole Universe be of more importance than another?
>
>And then consider the esoteric role you would like Astrology to have.
>
>I am not rejecting the science of astrology. I am merely saying that most soothsayers and astrologists are mistaken. And because many are saying that 2012 is important, it most likely is not in the sense they say it is. We have experienced this many times, and I sought to show this in the links I gave in one of the previous posts in this thread.
>
>What we are dealing with here is in a sense the old parable by Aesop: "The Wolf is coming". And it did not, and the boy laughed at the villagers. But then it suddenly came.
>And nobody laughed.
>
>So sometimes we all might get "lucky". But why waste time on something like that?
>
>To actually know, and to be wise as a true Astrological Mage, and be able to read the signs among the stars and the karmic patterns is a good thing. But to go and claim that this can be done without any knowledge about the karmic patterns is a stupid and foolish attempt upon the law of karma and humanity. There is no true Astrological knowledge without the ability to read karmic patterns - of the incarnations of humanity.
>And since most Astrologers are not dealing with this but with - Dead-Letter - interpretations, more or less, -- of anicent stone-carvings they are bound to fail.
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>And no wise Astrologer invent and install fear in peoples minds, if this is not what they spiritually need - even - if they claim that this is what they want.
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>Why invent and install fear in people, which is not already there?
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>Now is the time. Not tomorrow, not next year, but right now, and always now. Past, present and future is experienced in the now, in the present moment.
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>So Compassion is to tell people what is needed spiritually, in a given moment in time, and not always what we could tell them, even if it might be the truth.
>
>Let me reformulate and ask:
>Why, do you think, that we not are experiencing that the Masters come and tell everyone what will happen the next hundred years, down to the dot?
>Why did they not inform us all about terrorist events and various invasions, and environment disasters?
>
>Because, there is something called the Law of Karma.
>
>I do hope that this helped.
>
>M. Sufilight
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Cass Silva
>To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 3:26 AM
>Subject: Re: theos-talk Fw: [CosmicCookies] 110623
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>We could start with the Pyramids, Stonehenge, etc.
>Cass
>
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>>From: M. Sufilight < global-theosophy@WLxL74ssA38BvgVNTlwlkeLFjTtq_sGUsZzwz_L_SCnh1NX5bll43Pki_GXgdQP3pTZO3HzlxhNZRr3DKWb6tDuin8XMyw.yahoo.invalid >
>>To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
>>Sent: Tuesday, 28 June 2011 3:52 PM
>>Subject: Re: theos-talk Fw: [CosmicCookies] 110623
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>>Dear Cass and friends
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>>My views are:
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>>I will ask...:
>>What kind of ancient astronomy are you referring to?
>>And what value aught it to be given and why?
>>
>>M. Sufilight
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: Cass Silva
>>To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
>>Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 3:31 AM
>>Subject: Re: theos-talk Fw: [CosmicCookies] 110623
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>>You are discounting ancient astronomy which was used to predict events.
>>Cass
>>
>>>________________________________
>>>From: M. Sufilight < global-theosophy@WLxL74ssA38BvgVNTlwlkeLFjTtq_sGUsZzwz_L_SCnh1NX5bll43Pki_GXgdQP3pTZO3HzlxhNZRr3DKWb6tDuin8XMyw.yahoo.invalid >
>>>To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
>>>Sent: Monday, 27 June 2011 5:21 PM
>>>Subject: Re: theos-talk Fw: [CosmicCookies] 110623
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>>>
>>>
>>>Dear Cass and friends
>>>
>>>My views are:
>>>
>>>Try this...and scroll down to year 1914 (Jehovahâs Witnesses), 1953 (David Davidson), 1982 (even NASA predicts), 1987 (Harmonic Convergence), 1996 (Sheldon Nidle) or so.
>>>
>>>Prediction Addiction Versus Prophecy: False Apocalyptic Dates
>>> http://appleofgodseye.wordpress.com/2009/03/26/prediction-addiction-versus-prophecy-false-apocalyptic-dates/
>>>
>>>Library of Date Setters of
>>>The End of the World!!!
>>>Over 200 predictions and counting!
>>> http://www.bible.ca/pre-date-setters.htm
>>>
>>>Also but not mentioned in the above:
>>>Giant Rock with George Van Tassel and the Ashtar Command, and also Yvonne Cole
>>>"The Giant Rock Spacecraft Convention "
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Van_Tassel
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashtar_%28extraterrestrial_being%29
>>>
>>>The above links are in various respects the origin to the present day 2012 myths.
>>>People discovered that money could be earned and fame gained by pulling a stunt like this.
>>>
>>>My views are:
>>>To spend a huge amount of time on something like a prophecy - about what is called - "special events", is a waste of spiritual time. When you know, you know. When you make poems you make poems. When you seek to sell books, you seek to sell books. When you seek to earn money by this, you seek to earn money by it. When you seek fame or power by this, you seek fame or power by it.
>>>
>>>Yet some persons on this planet are like our wellknown Fox Mulder with his poster saying: "I Want to Believe!"
>>> http://www.whispermag.co.uk/siteimage/scale/0/0/28994.gif
>>>
>>>Smile.
>>>
>>>Just because a great number of persons buy the Christian Bible, it does not imply that the Bible primarily is good and healty for people to read. Does it?
>>>And just because most books (or almost) among the New Age groups these days have nervous break-down about the year 2012, it does not imply that they are right, does it?
>>>
>>>Ask yourself the following question:
>>>Why should any particular moment in the whole Universe be of more importance than another?
>>>
>>>I suggest that the 2012 prophets, Think carefully about this question.
>>>
>>>When you seek to - primarily - make people believe and not know, you seek to do just that. And I am one of those who will not bargin about this.
>>>I seek to help people to actually know based on actual facts, and, not through pseudo-scientific observations producing fear in peoples minds.
>>>
>>>Just a few views of mine.
>>>
>>>M. Sufilight
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: Cass Silva
>>>To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
>>>Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 2:03 AM
>>>Subject: Re: theos-talk Fw: [CosmicCookies] 110623
>>>
>>>If you guys aren't aware of the disturbing and changing weather patterns that are occuring at the moment you must be residing in Plato's cave. Things are changing, Blavatsky was right, Japan, as she predicted, would be under water. Whether it is coincidence that these events are occuring as we approach the Mayan 2012 calendar or if this is another minor cycle we can only guess at, but what cannot be disregarded is the fact that mother nature is addressing an imbalance.
>>>
>>>Cass
>>>
>>>>________________________________
>>>>From: M. Sufilight < global-theosophy@WLxL74ssA38BvgVNTlwlkeLFjTtq_sGUsZzwz_L_SCnh1NX5bll43Pki_GXgdQP3pTZO3HzlxhNZRr3DKWb6tDuin8XMyw.yahoo.invalid >
>>>>To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
>>>>Sent: Sunday, 26 June 2011 12:24 AM
>>>>Subject: Re: theos-talk Fw: [CosmicCookies] 110623
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>A view:
>>>>Too little emphasis on the difference between Mind Control, secterian and non-secterian, as well as dogmatic versus non-docmatic --- and the actual difference between those terms as given in various dictionaries, wikipedia, and the ignorance about those terms and their actual differences among New Age seekers and even theosophical seekers.
>>>>
>>>>One could suggest that the purely scientific theories and hypothesises given by Tavistock Clinic (and similar) and the theories on "Flooding" (Pavlov's dogs) and the Manchurian Candidate, hypnosis theories (as given today), and also Mind Control (subtle persuasion techniques used by Leaders in Sects) could be compared with theosophical views and teachings on the same.
>>>>
>>>>M. Sufilight
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: Drpsionic@B62eUGF5wtJ3Es6p8xDLsNkezhJ3DQtg3xx4jpfuEx44yQ58vlel9sPMblBYCSAKRbktO3KRfxSXPQ.yahoo.invalid
>>>>To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
>>>>Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 5:14 PM
>>>>Subject: Re: theos-talk Fw: [CosmicCookies] 110623
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>>>>Balderdash and flapdoodle!
>>>>
>>>>Chuck the Heretic
>>>>
>>>>In a message dated 6/23/2011 8:42:55 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
>>>> silva_cass@CgC2G-g-cwXHrqLM0fiem4Z82YDaeobj3z6tr3WznIca4s8MPSRW3VcINv5iLyIt_g-TukqMy_2no0r3oXw.yahoo.invalid writes:
>>>>
>>>>Any comments?
>>>>
>>>>----- Forwarded Message -----
>>>>>From: GT Eleven < _GT11@ytrqyKY15-Kawe_wbvTrzGyX1yKogh1sLs43aLNhpljLmLhqviHIA7ysanJqaPkgZZpQZNeh.yahoo.invalid _ (mailto: GT11@F42_jONeAJ76au-41NTS3KN50fnHoZSMpAnpvi1TQCLYcuAce87edolfqb9zyb6Fy6lE6Wg.yahoo.invalid ) >
>>>>>To: _cosmiccookies@yahoogroups.com _ (mailto: cosmiccookies@yahoogroups.com )
>>>>>Sent: Friday, 24 June 2011 12:13 AM
>>>>>Subject: [CosmicCookies] 110623
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>>>>>the End of a great Cosmic Cycle.
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>>>>>The Matter oriented Human Race
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>>>>>The New Age Man and Woman
>>>>>will be detached from Material Possessions
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>>>>>after a possible Pole Shift.
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>>>>>New Land masses would arise
>>>>>and existing ones will disappear.
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>>>>>Mankind on Earth will meet their Sky Brothers
>>>>>of which not all are Friendly.
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>>>>>Some will arrive and try to dominate the World of Man.
>>>>>The present New World Order is preparing their arrival.
>>>>>Mother Earth will be a Fourth/Fifth Density Planet.
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>>>>>THIRD DENSITY PEOPLE WILL INCARNATE ELSEWHERE
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