Theos-Talk Archives (January 2011 Message tt00094)

A few views of mine:

The initiated Sufi named Abdul Qadir (known as the Rose of Baghdad) taught a doctrine and system similar to the Rosicrucians in the years around 1144. And his sons is said to have written papers on this doctrine. So it is quite possible that Christian Rosenkreuz learned his doctrine there in the area not that far from the place where the Magi's of old (The Zoroastrian - Fire-Philosophers ) taught a doctrine similar to this system. Some mentions that he might have learned something from the Ikhwan al-Safa also known as Brethren of Purity, who existed at Basra in those days.


Henry Lincoln and Michael Baigent, and Richard Leigh, who can be called researchers of occultism and Martinism writes about an  "Order of the Rose-Croix " which is said to have been founded by Jean de Gisors in 1188 in France. This is mentioned by the historian Robert Denyau in 1629. 
(The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail, p.133, 159) - And it is also mentioned that - "Ormus" is the name of an Egyptian sage from Alexandria, who in A.D. 46 or so created an order with the Rose Cross as its insignia. 

Interestingly we find that the Christians adopted the Rosary from the Saracens. And WRD or WaRD is a Rose poetically speaking - and an "el-wardia" is a recieter.

H. P. Blavatsky wrote:
"The Rosicrucians, among all the mystics and Kabalists, were those who defined Fire in the right and most correct way."
(Secret Doctrine Vol. I, p. 121)


H. P. Blavatsky wrote:
"It was said that: "The Garden of Eden as a locality is no myth at all; it belongs to those landmarks of history which occasionally disclose to the student that the Bible is not all mere allegory."
.......
" In the Chaldean "Book of Numbers," the location is designated in numerals, and in the cypher Rosicrucian manuscript, left by Count St. Germain, it is fully described. In the Assyrian Tablets it is rendered Ganduniyas."
(Secret Doctrine Vol. II, p. 202)


And Rudolf Steiner claimed that Count St. Germain was the reincarnation of Christian Rosenkreuz. ( See "Esoteric Christianity and the Mission of Christian Rosenkreutz", 27th September 1911 ).


And H. P. Blavatsky said that Paracelsus was a Rosicrucian as well.


Let us know people on their fruits.



M. Sufilight


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: email2cal 
  To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, January 07, 2011 7:03 PM
  Subject: theos-talk Re: adepts in the Greco-Roman world


    
  No, I didn't forget about St. Germain, but he was a guest in the West
  on a mission to do something and not a native western adept. 

  You might also remind me about Christian Rosenkreuz, the founding 
  father of Rosicrucianism who supposedly later appeared as the Count
  of St. Germain, and I am willing to include him too provided there is
  reasonable evidence supporting his historical existence.

  Speaking of the Rosicrucian tradition, Rudolf Steiner seems to be the 
  only high initiate in that tradition who really existed.

  Max

  --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Konstantin Zaitzev" <kay_ziatz@...> wrote:
  >
  > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "email2cal" <email2cal@> wrote:
  > 
  > > The Western European period probably was much poorer in comparison.
  > 
  > You forgot count Saint Germain.
  > Blavatsky also wrote about Cagliostro that he wasn't a charlatan.
  >



  

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