Theos-Talk Archives (December 2010 Message tt00190)

Precisely, my point!
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>From: MKR <mkr777@CAE6brqA0QiASt18fAAw3F3tMv_7y-s5D2SjF1jz2fqn2nNbzPsmO16zy0UsPltZQZBY8DlNYwND.yahoo.invalid>
>To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Sun, 26 December, 2010 1:26:47 PM
>Subject: Re: theos-talk Qualifications For Chelaship
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>There are many comments about the qualifications for chelaship in early
>theosophical literature. However, what HPB wrote in the Lucifer is the most
>simple, direct and easily understood by anyone. Clarity in these matters is
>essential and use of simple language is also equally important. One should
>not have to research the meanings of words using a dictionary.
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>It looks like there is a lot of mistaken ideas about what is really needed
>for occult progress. This is all the more so with many who may have joined
>one organization or the other in the hope of getting guidance. While one
>hopes all that may help, HPB went to the heart of the issue with no
>unmistakable clarity.
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>On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 6:29 PM, jdmsoares <jdmsoares@ov_LUKNwAQYUHWzV96BCyF1EJD-Azl44gEIT2cXq0C3MI4sgluFS_BjauCGMbiI6aNngDaTvMXvYzrJ_.yahoo.invalid> wrote:
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>> Dear friends,
>> Thanks MKR.
>> Important words indeed from HPB.
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>> There is also another article, by Mohini Chaterjee, that is among those
>> texts in the esoteric literature which deserve being read once and
>> again .... It is published at www.esoteric-philosophy.com
>> <http://www.esoteric-philosophy.com> with the title:
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>> QUALIFICATIONS FOR CHELASHIP
>> <http://www.esoteric-philosophy.com/2010/07/qualifications-for-chelaship\
>>.html<http://www.esoteric-philosophy.com/2010/07/qualifications-for-chelaship.html>
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>> The Four Accomplishments and the
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>> Six Qualifications In True Discipleship
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>> The direct link is:
>> http://www.esoteric-philosophy.com/2010/07/qualifications-for-chelaship.\
>>html<http://www.esoteric-philosophy.com/2010/07/qualifications-for-chelaship.html>
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>> <http://www.esoteric-philosophy.com/2010/07/qualifications-for-chelaship\
>>.html<http://www.esoteric-philosophy.com/2010/07/qualifications-for-chelaship.html>
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>> As the editor writes in the headnote:
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>> "The text clearly describes what discipleship is about. It also
>> provides a basis for a useful self-examination on the part of those
>> students who aspire for inner learning."
>>
>> Best regards, Joaquim
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>> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com>, MKR
>> <mkr777@...> wrote:
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>> > Lucifer Magazine which has been scanned and uploaded recently to
>> > theosophy.net, is a gold mine for the earnest inquirer.
>> >
>> > I ran into the following relating to Chelaship. There seems to be a
>> lot of
>> > confusion about Chelaship and mistaken ideas and practices surround
>> it,
>> > especially when one becomes a member of any organized group, whether
>> > publicly known or not. Here is what HPB has to say, and she puts it
>> very
>> > clearly. (Lucifer, Vol IV, No. 22, June 1989, pp.348)
>> >
>> > ÃâÅChelaship has nothing whatever to do with means of subsistence
>> or anything
>> > of the kind, for a man can isolate his mind entirely from his body and
>> its
>> > surroundings. Chelaship is a stale of mind rather than a life
>> according to
>> > hard and fast rules on the physical plane. This applies especia11y to
>> the
>> > earlier, probationary period, while the rules given in Lucifer for
>> April
>> > last pertain properly to a later stage, that of actual occult training
>> and
>> > the development of occult powers and insight.
>> >
>> > These rules indicate, however, the mode of life which ought to be
>> followed
>> > by all aspirants so far as practicable, since it is the most helpful
>> to them
>> > in their aspirations.
>> >
>> > It should never be forgotten that Occultism is concerned with the
>> inner man
>> > who must be strengthened and freed from the dominion of the physical
>> body
>> > and its surroundings, which must become his servants.
>> >
>> > Hence the first and chief necessity of Chelaship is a spirit of
>> absolute
>> > unselfishness and devotion to Truth; then follow self-knowledge and
>> > self-mastery. These are all-important; while outward observance of
>> fixed
>> > rules of life is a matter of secondary moment.
>> >
>> > Woman has as good a chance as any man has to reach high Adeptship. Why
>> she
>> > does not succeed in this direction in Europe is simply due to her
>> early
>> > education and the social prejudice which causes her to be regarded as
>> > inferior to man. This prejudice, amounting to a curse in Christian
>> lands,
>> > was mainly derived from the Jewish Bible, and man has profited by
>> it.Ãâ
>> >
>> > MKR
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