Theos-Talk Archives (October 2010 Message tt00136)

It gets better.  The whole Remote Viewing program and its subsequent  
spin-offs was based on Scientology.
 
Chuck the Heretic
 
www.charlescosimano.com  

 
In a message dated 10/13/2010 7:11:44 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
Augoeides-222@GdgMndiZoT1907S7Lkz2AlUomu2Bue8X-32W7wZJ8DYGEoaY1wZ1-kmzsGRjKyhcBdNkmITwTVrFptgBBYaa8GcYc9M.yahoo.invalid writes:

 
 
 
Cass, Hmmm, it is? Lol! I happened to be Google Earthing "Hollywood Blvd"  
in Hollywood California the other day looking to fing "Graumans Chinese  
Theatre" on Hollywood Blvd. As I was on "Street Views and proceeded up  
Hollywood Blvd I came to what once was the 12 story high Security Pacific bank  
Building rising high into the sky there! But it was not a bank any more gues  
what it was? It was the Hollywood Scientology Bldg and right next to it was  
the L. Ron hubbard Museum. Now this sin't the only place in Hollywood that 
is  owned by the disintegrating organization but throughout much of America 
they  are found and I think if my memory is right they greatly out number the 
 enrollments of Theosophy lol! Not withstanding that they were banned in  
Germany and certtain other localities you are familar with lol! I dare say  
they possess multiples of the cash Theosophy has having parted it from  
believers. Actually outside of Patanjali who described the Con ditioned Mind  of 
Mankind at length Scientology is the solitary modern resource to describing  
it with new augmentations and accesses that are scientifically repeatable. 
I  am not an advocate just a realist . What is, is.That building was a 
surprise  to me! My discernemnet of how Hubbard got what he got is that he 
managed to  extraspolate the Yoga Sutra's teachig into a new modern language in a  
technical manner and facilitated it's gnosis into a discipline using  
technology no yoga ever possesed the "truth machine". One of the largest  
deficits a yoga has against his success is his own interior lies to his self  due 
to the state of his seven fold economy and what holds it back, he found  the 
means to reveal the false fancy's, considertions, agreements , false  idea's 
that stopped so many from adeptship. In his Reactive Mind views he  
actually used the Socratic and Platonic Infrastructure of the Dialectic Frame  
which _was taught by Socrates and Plato as the means to arrive to t he "Truth".  
Blavatsky never stopped saying "There is no Religion Higher than Truth!" Am 
I  correct about her? 

Nothing strikes more terror into the conditioned  mind than Truth! 

regards, 
John 

----- Original Message-----  
From: "Cass Silva" <




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Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010  4:28:47 PM 
Subject: Re: theos-talk Re: Isis Unveiled 

As  Scientology is being systematically being closed down and brought into 
global  
disrepute - are these new foundations, simply a restructuring of  
scientology? 
Any one wanting to know so much about me leaves me very  suspicious about 
their 
motives. The spiritual path is not about our  psychological nature so why 
the 
need for a psych evaluation? 
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>Cass 
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>To: _ (http://www.charlescosimano.com/) _theos-talk@yahoogroups.com_ 
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>Sent: Wed, 13 October, 2010  4:06:26 PM 
>Subject: Re: theos-talk Re: Isis Unveiled 
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>Theo, 
>Thank for your comments and reply. My view about  Theosophy has been from 
time to 
>time posted here. I have the position  that was inculcated by knowledge I 
got 
>when exposed to Scientilogical  methods I was taugh such as Goals- 
Targeting - 
>Survey techniques. In  order to know what is "Wanted - Desired- and 
Reached for" 
>one does a  type of market survey to find out just what turns people on 
and off.  
>The result gives a pretty good indication of the present state of the  
>consciousness of a population such as the current young generation  which 
is 
>removed from Blavatskys days by 119 years of" start - change  - stop" 
process 
>which forms the evolution seen. The victorian age  ended 
> 
>largely becuase of evolution of science and mans  expanded understanding 
and 
>reason. People just do not reach out or  desire the same things of 
Blavatsky's 
>time. In order to create a  public that wants and desires what you offer 
you have 
>to offer what  they actually will reach for and based on book sales (which 
is one  
>good parameter to measure the current publics "reach" it seems to me  to 
be 
>everything that Morten wants to erase from existance however  fron people 
of my 
>age may see differently. Today they hold "Psychic  and Paranormal Fairs" 
and "UFO 
>Conventions" in Europe, Asia, So,  America, America, Canada, Australia and 
gather 
>large public attendence  by persons able and willing to pay some times 
$600 -700 
>USD to see  videos, listen to presentations about Psychic, Paranormal, 
UFO, Life  
>after Death, NDE's, Past Life Recalls and a plethora of other subject  
matter. 
>This, for the last several decades has been a "Success  Formula" that even 
though 
>it does not represent a significant  percentile of the general population 
it 
>easily gathers more people  annually than the entire world wide population 
of 
>Theosophical  Societies in my view. 
> 
> 
>In the i970's I used to go to  the Besant Lodge on Beachwood Dr. in 
Hollywood. On 
>what was called  then the "Temple Hill "area. The directorvback then a 
Frank 
>Silberman.  After entering the front vestibule one stepped into the book 
store  
>that had the primary Theosophical titles by Blavatsky, Olcutt and  Judge 
etc. But 
>these volumes took only a little space of the total  shelf space. The rest 
was 
>occupied then like now by books on the above  mentioned topics. The reason 
for 
>that was that that is what sold!  Lodges are significantly supported by 
book 
>sales income which also is  part of the tithe sent to HDQTRS. 
> 
> 
>My view is  Blavatsky's "Economy of the Being" , "The Seven Fold 
Constitution"  
>that defines that "gestalt" of each persons individual make up, and  which 
is the 
>determining operative make-up that causes people to  "Reach" is not 
something any 
>one can postulate away, or evade the  existence of. To my view it is a 
"senior" 
>operating contributor to  what is "Acceptable and "Desired" by each 
persons 
>economy, moment to  moment, through each life time that dictates what 
attracts 
>each of us  to what we will gather to ourselves as fullfillment, 
gratification,  
>and expansiveness to our beingness and understanding according to our  
karmic 
>aggregates that are in manisfestation unique to our  individualitys. If 
Theosophy 
>has a deficit in terms of what is  "Wanted", "Desired", "Needed" I and the 
others 
>such asa young  generation will never be attracted no matter how much 
others wish 
>it  to happen. 
> 
> 
>Mkr has spoken of the large attendance to  Theosophy in India by Indians. 
But to 
>really know why it attracts them  an in depth analytical measurement and 
survey 
>should be performed. I  think the findings will be very specific to the 
Indian 
>culture self  concepts which will be unique to them. Also there has been 
mention 
>of  the large Brazilian interest 
> 
>as to Theosophy, i entertain a  view that Brazil has a very large interest 
in 
>"Spiritualism" a long  established character in Brazil. There seems to be 
a large 
>following  after the teachings Alan Cardec Mesmerism in Brazil both areas 
lend to  
>easy curiosity as regards Theosophy, Brazil has the "Mountain of the  
Magicians' 
>some wherethere but I have forgotten what Martin Leiderman  told 
meppersonally in 
>1970's and I haven't been abel to find it  otherwise. My point is today 
there are 
>yet certain "Cultures" that  have populations that can be receptive in 
different 
>degree's than more  western industrialized nations due to the 
"receptivity" of 
>the  populace to the "Mysteries" composed of a multitude of unknowns to 
them. Not  
>everyone wants to be a buddhist or other type, "differentiation" is  the 
modis 
>operandi and homogenaity is a pipe dream. 
> 
>  
>Some have mentioned lodges that have Teaching Courses all over the  world. 
Well 
>it takes considerable time spent when it is a in depth  worthwhile course, 
>usually with a course "Fee" that helps support the  maintenance of the 
roof over 
>the head of the lodge itself an other  expenses. Courses are worth while. 
But 
>time is not always found next  to the whell of necessity of daily life and 
work. 
>So many just will  purchase books on subjects they value for personal 
reasons. 
>Online  Blog and discussion groups can be a good experience as well as 
expansive  
>to friendship with other who have the same interests. 
>  
> 
>Today there can be "Personal Channels" created by individuals  or 
Organizations 
>that have a wide character from mediated instructor  ship or only 
documentarys 
>without personal exposures. I have seen a  variety of them online. In 
China today 
>the Chinese User internet  population is over 300 million individuals 
almost the 
>entire  population of the USA. In china today there is a protacted ongoing 
UFO  
>Flap that features videos and cell phone photos thown on nationa and  
local news 
>here in the USA. The Chinese have a large legacy of  beliefs, 
superstitions, 
>curiositys etc, yet a brand new middle class  has appeared that is 
transforming 
>the directions of minds there as has  happened practically everywhere else 
in 
>serial order on this planet  over time. Hamlets Mill will grind those who 
persist 
>in being  resistant to change to make flour of them. 
> 
> 
>What  happened to the previous world and civilizations was "Start- 
Change-Stop"  
>we need to be able to see that when it is happening with awareness and  
conscious 
>truth. Then make the proper appropiate adaptions. The Sumer,  Accadians, 
Hyksos, 
>Assyrians, Hittite, Lemurians, Altantians and all  the rest became flour 
when 
>they failed to move in time with the wave  of change, solve et coagula. We 
>dissolve and appear a new having  appropiateness and context as dictated 
by 
>evolutions of our beingness  in keeping with the "Lords of Karma" on the 
dynamic 
>scales of  magnitudes, micro to macro, as Blavatsky spoke of as well as 
many  
>others past. 
> 
> 
>To me , it is not a question of  "deviation" from a set program, but the 
Reality 
>and senior Nature of  Life , that which is the All that we come with, and 
Al_l 
>that is About  us, of we we are it's ray of expression. Once I and others 
were  
>instructed "Seek not of I ----- Seek rather the Energy of your own  Being 
---- 
>and the Space that is About you". We have our existance in  the Ocean of 
Beauty a 
>la Proclus and Plotinus, we sail as sailors like  the Argonauts pushed by 
the 
>waves of Life itself. 
> 
>  
>Regards to all, 
>John 
> 
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>To: _ (http://www.charlescosimano.com/) _theos-talk@yahoogroups.com_ 
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>Sent: Tuesday, October 12,  2010 4:20:01 PM 
>Subject: theos-talk Re: Isis Unveiled 
>  
>Hi John, you know that I hold you in the highest of respects. And I am  
much 
>educated by your posts on Juan Moricz - you being my only,  learned source 
as to 
>that. 
> 
> 
>In regards to the  url you cite, I am puzzled by the fact that theosophy - 
at one 
>time at  the forefront of human development - in the 21st century has 
dwindled to  
>a sorry state where it is seen as an, at most, curious superstition or  an 
>erroneous cultic belief system developing out of the reactionary  forces 
to the 
>early industrialisation processes of western society  (six years before 
"Isis 
>Unveiled" saw print the steam engine was  'discovered') - has not grasped 
this 
>unique era in embracing the  various new communications platforms. 
> 
> 
>My estimate is  that this is for a variety of reasons: fear and lack of 
>understanding  of the new, lack of trust in a new generation, failure to 
>understand  evolutionary processes in reg_ards to the tension fields 
created by  
>adherence to dogma in the austere bodies of wisdom and the esoteric  
schools, and 
>utmost sloppiness in regards to heritage preservation and  maintenance. 
> 
> 
>Kind regards, 
> 
>Theo  
> 
>--- In _ (http://www.charlescosimano.com/) _theos-talk@QfxPYz1QtZBINY1GA-iadaeEAOsmoGyVOE962tlbmAAlVxydsRoS-XJjWK2GfbXYQ15XKlV5KyKQlDAVJ6qR2XXdBXXrdA.yahoo.invalid_ 
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>> Theo, 
>> I wanted to give you a website  link: 
>> 
>> Links to Theosophical Texts Online  
>> 
>> >>> _ (http://www.charlescosimano.com/) 
_http://www.austheos.org.au/clibrary/bindex-t.html_ (http://www.austheos.org.au/clibrary/bindex-t.html) _ 
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>> 
>>  You and others might find some unread worthy documents among the links. 
What  is 
>>your view of Juan Moric z ? 
>> 
>>  
>> Regards, 
>> John 
>> 
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