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Re: theos-talk Re: Isis Unveiled

Oct 14, 2010 07:36 AM
by Drpsionic


Scientology being closed down?  What planet are you living on?   It's still 
growing.
 
In 64ce, no one would have bet much on the future of Christianity.
 
Chuck the Heretic
 
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In a message dated 10/13/2010 6:28:57 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
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As Scientology is being systematically being closed down and  brought into 
global 
disrepute - are these new foundations, simply a  restructuring of 
scientology?  
Any one wanting to know so much about  me leaves me very suspicious about 
their 
motives.  The spiritual path  is not about our psychological nature so why 
the 
need for a psych  evaluation?
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>Cass
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>To: _ (http://www.charlescosimano.com/) _theos-talk@yahoogroups.com_ 
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>Sent: Wed, 13 October, 2010  4:06:26 PM
>Subject: Re: theos-talk Re: Isis  Unveiled
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>Theo, 
>Thank for your comments  and reply. My view about Theosophy has been from 
time to 
>time posted  here. I have the position that was inculcated by knowledge I 
got 
>when  exposed to Scientilogical methods I was taugh such as Goals- 
Targeting -  
>Survey techniques. In order to know what is "Wanted - Desired- and  
Reached for" 
>one does a type of market survey to find out just what  turns people on 
and off. 
>The result gives a pretty good indication of  the present state of the 
>consciousness of a population such as the  current young generation which 
is 
>removed from Blavatskys days by 119  years of" start - change - stop" 
process 
>which forms the evolution  seen. The victorian age ended 
>
>largely becuase of evolution of  science and mans expanded understanding 
and 
>reason. People just do not  reach out or desire the same things of 
Blavatsky's 
>time. In order to  create a public that wants and desires what you offer 
you have 
>to  offer what they actually will reach for and based on book sales (which 
is one  
>good parameter to measure the current publics "reach" it seems to me  to 
be 
>everything that Morten wants to erase from existance however  fron people 
of my 
>age may see differently. Today they hold "Psychic  and Paranormal Fairs" 
and "UFO 
>Conventions" in Europe, Asia, So,  America, America, Canada, Australia and 
gather 
>large public attendence  by persons able and willing to pay some times 
$600 -700 
>USD to see  videos, listen to presentations about Psychic, Paranormal, 
UFO, Life  
>after Death, NDE's, Past Life Recalls and a plethora of other subject  
matter. 
>This, for the last several decades has been a "Success  Formula" that even 
though 
>it does not represent a significant  percentile of the general population 
it 
>easily gathers more people  annually than the entire world wide population 
of 
>Theosophical  Societies in my view. 
>
>
>In the i970's I used to go to  the Besant Lodge on Beachwood Dr. in 
Hollywood. On 
>what was called  then the "Temple Hill "area. The directorvback then a 
Frank 
>Silberman.  After entering the front vestibule one stepped into the book 
store  
>that had the primary Theosophical titles by Blavatsky, Olcutt and  Judge 
etc. But 
>these volumes took only a little space of the total  shelf space. The rest 
was 
>occupied then like now by books on the above  mentioned topics. The reason 
for 
>that was that that is what sold!  Lodges are significantly supported by 
book 
>sales income which also is  part of the tithe sent to HDQTRS. 
>
>
>My view is  Blavatsky's "Economy of the Being" , "The Seven Fold 
Constitution"  
>that defines that "gestalt" of each persons individual make up, and  which 
is the 
>determining operative make-up that causes people to  "Reach" is not 
something any 
>one can postulate away, or evade the  existence of. To my view it is a 
"senior" 
>operating contributor to  what is "Acceptable and "Desired" by each 
persons 
>economy, moment to  moment, through each life time that dictates what 
attracts 
>each of us  to what we will gather to ourselves as fullfillment, 
gratification,  
>and expansiveness to our beingness and understanding according to our  
karmic 
>aggregates that are in manisfestation unique to our  individualitys. If 
Theosophy 
>has a deficit in terms of what is  "Wanted", "Desired", "Needed" I and the 
others 
>such asa young  generation will never be attracted no matter how much 
others wish 
>it  to happen. 
>
>
>Mkr has spoken of the large attendance to  Theosophy in India by Indians. 
But to 
>really know why it attracts them  an in depth analytical measurement and 
survey 
>should be performed. I  think the findings will be very specific to the 
Indian 
>culture self  concepts which will be unique to them. Also there has been 
mention 
>of  the large Brazilian interest 
>
>as to Theosophy, i entertain a  view that Brazil has a very large interest 
in 
>"Spiritualism" a long  established character in Brazil. There seems to be 
a large 
>following  after the teachings Alan Cardec Mesmerism in Brazil both areas 
lend to  
>easy curiosity as regards Theosophy, Brazil has the "Mountain of the  
Magicians' 
>some wherethere but I have forgotten what Martin Leiderman  told 
meppersonally in 
>1970's and I haven't been abel to find it  otherwise. My point is today 
there are 
>yet certain "Cultures" that  have populations that can be receptive in 
different 
>degree's than more  western industrialized nations due to the 
"receptivity" of 
>the  populace to the "Mysteries" composed of a multitude of unknowns to 
them. Not  
>everyone wants to be a buddhist or other type, "differentiation" is  the 
modis 
>operandi and homogenaity is a pipe dream.  
>
>
>Some have mentioned lodges that have Teaching Courses  all over the world. 
Well 
>it takes considerable time spent when it is a  in depth worthwhile course, 
>usually with a course "Fee" that helps  support the maintenance of the 
roof over 
>the head of the lodge itself  an other expenses. Courses are worth while. 
But 
>time is not always  found next to the whell of necessity of daily life and 
work. 
>So many  just will purchase books on subjects they value for personal 
reasons.  
>Online Blog and discussion groups can be a good experience as well as  
expansive 
>to friendship with other who have the same interests.  
>
>
>Today there can be "Personal Channels" created by  individuals or 
Organizations 
>that have a wide character from mediated  instructor ship or only 
documentarys 
>without personal exposures. I  have seen a variety of them online. In 
China today 
>the Chinese User  internet population is over 300 million individuals 
almost the 
>entire  population of the USA. In china today there is a protacted ongoing 
UFO  
>Flap that features videos and cell phone photos thown on nationa and  
local news 
>here in the USA. The Chinese have a large legacy of  beliefs, 
superstitions, 
>curiositys etc, yet a brand new middle class  has appeared that is 
transforming 
>the directions of minds there as has  happened practically everywhere else 
in 
>serial order on this planet  over time. Hamlets Mill will grind those who 
persist 
>in being  resistant to change to make flour of them. 
>
>
>What  happened to the previous world and civilizations was "Start- 
Change-Stop"  
>we need to be able to see that when it is happening with awareness and  
conscious 
>truth. Then make the proper appropiate adaptions. The Sumer,  Accadians, 
Hyksos, 
>Assyrians, Hittite, Lemurians, Altantians and all  the rest became flour 
when 
>they failed to move in time with the wave  of change, solve et coagula. We 
>dissolve and appear a new having  appropiateness and context as dictated 
by 
>evolutions of our beingness  in keeping with the "Lords of Karma" on the 
dynamic 
>scales of  magnitudes, micro to macro, as Blavatsky spoke of as well as 
many  
>others past. 
>
>
>To me , it is not a question of  "deviation" from a set program, but the 
Reality 
>and senior Nature of  Life , that which is the All that we come with, and 
All 
>that is About  _us, of we we are it's ray of expression. Once I and others 
were  
>instructed "Seek not of I ----- Seek rather the Energy of your own  Being 
---- 
>and the Space that is About you". We have our existance in  the Ocean of 
Beauty a 
>la Proclus and Plotinus, we sail as sailors like  the Argonauts pushed by 
the 
>waves of Life itself.  
>
>
>Regards to all, 
>John 
>
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>To: _ (http://www.charlescosimano.com/) _theos-talk@yahoogroups.com_ 
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>Sent: Tuesday, October 12,  2010 4:20:01 PM 
>Subject: theos-talk Re: Isis Unveiled  
>
>Hi John, you know that I hold you in the highest of respects.  And I am 
much 
>educated by your posts on Juan Moricz - you being my  only, learned source 
as to 
>that. 
>
>
>In regards to  the url you cite, I am puzzled by the fact that theosophy - 
at one  
>time at the forefront of human development - in the 21st century has  
dwindled to 
>a sorry state where it is seen as an, at most, curious  superstition or an 
>erroneous cultic belief system developing out of  the reactionary forces 
to the 
>early industrialisation processes of  western society (six years before 
"Isis 
>Unveiled" saw print the steam  engine was 'discovered') - has not grasped 
this 
>unique era in  embracing the various new communications platforms. 
>
>
>My  estimate is that this is for a variety of reasons: fear and lack of  
>understanding of the new, lack of trust in a new generation, failure  to 
>understand evolutionary processes in regards _to the tension fields  
created by 
>adherence to dogma in the austere bodies of wisdom and the  esoteric 
schools, and 
>utmost sloppiness in regards to heritage  preservation and maintenance. 
>
>
>Kind regards,  
>
>Theo 
>
>--- In _ (http://www.charlescosimano.com/) _theos-talk@JJ04EaXCPxhC-TYfBf1MRhCLoaCi9PaY8maJKV22c2Jj0e7n1OnNdarPvoHvJ74yVFy7BYcbD_gqeZaDS0eyyQBz.yahoo.invalid_ 
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>> Theo, 
>> I wanted to give you a website  link: 
>> 
>> Links to Theosophical Texts Online  
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>> >>> _ (http://www.charlescosimano.com/) 
_http://www.austheos.org.au/clibrary/bindex-t.html_ (http://www.austheos.org.au/clibrary/bindex-t.html) _ 
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>> 
>>  You and others might find some unread worthy documents among the links. 
What  is 
>>your view of Juan Moric z ? 
>>
>>  
>> Regards, 
>> John 
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