Theos-Talk Archives (October 2010 Message tt00082)

Exactly Duane, therefore Chuck got an honorary place on my website here:





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From: Duane Carpenter <monad_monad_monad@6i_EZqOu7g4AS9ptC2n5PqN-RM2SHOtk-NdNCGQygjXRHZGZGYK0jVUA0FgWMt-6bg5NvUO88zDzzc9VJZvJ3MGs.yahoo.invalid>
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Sent: Sun, October 10, 2010 6:50:55 PM
Subject: Re: theos-talk Re: Aurobindo's madman?

  
Hi Chuck
You are correct in assuming AAB utilized all of her training and acquired 
knowledge in the Esoteric Section to work with her additional contributions. I 
am familiar with the esoteric work of the Theosophical society and what AAB 
wrote and she does expand and take these concepts into new and expanded areas.
This is why I continually ask those who doubt this possibility to study the 
material of AAB's themselves and come to their own conclusions.

Thanks Chuck for your continued support of hilarity, parody, farce, satire, 
occult street theater and humor. We all take this work way to seriously and you 
keep us honest.
Best Duane

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Sent: Sun, October 10, 2010 10:41:51 AM
Subject: Re: theos-talk Re: Aurobindo's madman?

  
Well, never actually having seen the ES material I have no personal grounds 
for making a comparison, only being able to say that I never heard anyone 
in the ES laugh at the comment.

Chuck the Heretic

_www.charlescosimano.com 

In a message dated 10/9/2010 1:18:16 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
global-theosophy@f_G3Qxe48218Gb3SCTxUnupRbz3oABZsF1h-rX9IRiDaR8UKdTQ-jvMH0p57Ut3p5TALCb4GVvRsIabNBioXY2rD.yahoo.invalid writes:

Smile.
I would say: Not stolen, but more precisely distorted.

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From: charles cosimano 
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Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2010 8:03 PM
Subject: Re: theos-talk Re: Aurobindo's madman?

I think the key came in an brief exchange in the Olcott Library many years 
ago. An elderly lady was staying at Olcott for a short time, doing 
something Theosophical, and she came into the library walked into the stacks and 


asked why the writings of Alice Bailey were there, not because of any 
objection to what they said, but because, as she said, they were all stolen from 


the Esoteric Section teachings.

That alone would send them up the walls and over the battlements.

Chuck the Heretic

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Subject: theos-talk Re: Aurobindo's madman?

This was a very contemporary article to have been written a hundred years 
ago! As for the "dethroning of popes" that still is the main thing needed 
IMO. But now in addition to an authoritarian mindset on behalf of the 
current leadership, the popes of 100 years ago are untouchable, beyond 
criticism, 

still enthroned even though long dead. 

I would think that Morten and I agree about the relative value of the 
writings of Leadbeater and Bailey compared to those of HPB. I'd be equally 
disinclined to spend time on either one, but if others in a group wanted to 
study them would not object, just skip those classes. But the difference in 
the TS is that nothing negative can ever said about the former, nothing 
positive about the latter, without making The Powers That Be extremely 
uncomfortable. What is it about Bailey in particular that creates such a 
paranoid 

atmosphere throughout the TS?

--- In _ (http://www.charlescosimano.com/) _theos-talk@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com) , Duane Carpenter <monad_monad_monad@...> 
wrote:
>
> Great Article Jim
> This extracted section of the article really gave important insights.
> 
> Aurobindo: Claims of Theosophy
> 
> 
> "If Theosophy is to survive, it must first change itself. It must learn 
that 
> mental rectitude to which it is now a stranger and improve its moral 
basis. It 
> must become clear, straightforward, rigidly self-searching, sceptical in 
the 
> nobler sense of the word. It must keep the Mahatmas in the background 
and put 
> God and Truth in the front. Its Popes must dethrone themselves and 
enthrone the 
> intellectual conscience of mankind. If they wish to be mystic and secret 
like 
> our Yogins, then they must like our Yogins assert only to the initiate 
and the 
> trained; but if they come out into the world to proclaim their mystic 
truths 
> aloud and seek power, credit and influence on the strength of their 
assertions, 
> then they must prove. It need not and ought not to be suddenly or by 
miracles; 
> but the_re must be a scientific development, we must be able to lay hold 
on the 
> rationale and watch the process of the truths they proclaim." 
> 
> Circa 1910/12
> 
> 
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> From: jamesbergh <jamesbergh@...>
> To: _ (http://www.charlescosimano.com/) _theos-talk@yahoogroups.com_ 
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> Sent: Fri, October 8, 2010 7:12:33 PM
> Subject: theos-talk Aurobindo's madman?
> 
> Ã 
> I was reading an article by Aurobindo, Claims of Theosophy at:
> www.aurobindo.ru/workings/sa/17/0015_e.htm
> 
> He wrote in 1910/12: ...The only member of the Theosophical Society who 
could 
> give me any spiritual help I could not better by my unaided faculties, 
was one 
> excluded from the esoteric section because of his rare and potent 
experiences 
> were unintelligible to Theosophical guides... one who meddled not in 
> organizations and election cabals but lived like a madman, unmattavat."
> 
> Could have been some other Chuck, but I wonder who this soul may have 
been.
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> Jim
> 
> 
> 
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