Theos-Talk Archives (August 2010 Message tt00138)

Geez, I and Chuck, the heretic and the skeptic, feature in them, and I can 
barely recall posting them. What is all the palava about?
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>Cass
>From: MKR <mkr777@aSlAfZ4BIAI22Ps7h_lrTtF6XLJEujAmsdARVkOSnGOOS1ItSvBlafwGzLUQl77VMXEzZUFiXw.yahoo.invalid>
>To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Tue, 10 August, 2010 1:54:59 PM
>Subject: Re: theos-talk I've retired and Ramadoss is doing the work
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>The messages are at this link:
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>-MKR
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>On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Cass Silva <silva_cass@ie87j-pM0ePEPuKGbhw2jr7KZQOorOqYygKuHOXByemFxBHADKdXZwm557YLtSo0YbWsFp6J4lgZNU9QCeQ.yahoo.invalid> wrote:
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>> I'm getting really curious about these posts - will someone post them!
>> Cass
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>> >From: Govert Schuller <schuller@_flBmXiVlt5VxEHHeCHWB7Nj3Di7cPjGU-5MvxujAA12DnLIZmvMQelx9On-FgdPU5sHICg9ZX9-9A.yahoo.invalid <schuller%40alpheus.org>>
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>> >To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com>
>> >Sent: Mon, 9 August, 2010 2:27:28 PM
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>> >Subject: Re: theos-talk I've retired and Ramadoss is doing the work
>> >
>> >
>> >Sorry, correction on the date: The relevant posts were on April 15, 2008.
>> >
>> >----- Original Message -----
>> >From: Govert Schuller
>> >To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com>
>> >Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 8:47 PM
>> >Subject: Re: theos-talk I've retired and Ramadoss is doing the work
>> >
>> >Dear Eldon,
>> >
>> >Thank you for the overview of the history and policies of this group.
>> >
>> >From it I understand that you were co-administrator with Ramdoss till last
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>> >month.
>> >
>> >
>> >Can you then give us here an explanation for the disappearance of the July
>> 16,
>> >2008 posts ## 43528-43531?
>> >
>> >Govert
>> >
>> >----- Original Message -----
>> >From: eldon_tucker
>> >To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com>
>> >Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 12:44 PM
>> >Subject: theos-talk I've retired and Ramadoss is doing the work
>> >
>> >Hi Everyone,
>> >
>> >Last year, I enlisted Ramadoss to help with the administrative functions
>> of
>> >theos-talk, since I had less time to devote to it. We've seen him around
>> since
>> >November 1995 on the predecessor list theos-l and then on theos-talk when
>> it was
>> >started.
>> >
>> >In July, I fully turned over the list to his management. Currently, he is
>> the
>> >only list owner, and I am a regular subscriber to the list. Over the past
>> year,
>> >he has been on a learning curve, so there's always the change an
>> occasional
>> >mistake made be made, but I'm confident that he has the best of intentions
>> and
>> >is a dedicated advocate of free speech.
>> >
>> >I'll comment on the current policy of the list, which should still be in
>> effect
>> >until differing circumstances arise and Ramadoss decides in his best
>> judgment
>> >that it's time for change.
>> >
>> >New subscribers start off as moderated, but they get an initial email that
>> tells
>> >them the moderation will be in effect only for a short while, during which
>> they
>> >can read and observe the operation of the list. If they make an initial
>> >inappropriate message or turn out to be a spammer, they can be filtered
>> out at
>> >that point. They're still free to post to the list, but their postings
>> will be
>> >reviewed and they may possibly get feedback on them before the postings go
>> out.
>> >Previous subscribers would be exempt from this; their subscription
>> requests
>> >would be recognized and they would be unmoderated right away.
>> >
>> >When a new subscriber is ready to fully participate, they're asked to post
>> to
>> >the list a description of who they are and what their background is. This
>> is
>> >because the only cause for removal, apart from troll-like behavior where
>> the
>> >list is flooded with messages and many people are offended and driven off,
>> is to
>> >pretend to be someone else on the list. The only exception would be if
>> someone
>> >lived in a country where if they fully identified themselves, they might
>> be
>> >subject to persecution, in which case they could use a pseudonym if they
>> just
>> >explained that to the list owner.
>> >
>> >Any subject relevant to theosophical inquiry is open for discussion, but
>> >spamming, flooding the list with unrelated content, or otherwise trying to
>> take
>> >over the list for some other purpose would be unacceptable. If a thread is
>>
>> >repetitive, inflammatory, and only serving to anger people, and complaints
>> are
>> >being received, it's up to the best judgment of the person managing the
>> list to
>> >change the subject or end the stuck discussion. Personal emails to the
>> >participants may be appropriate, but if some individuals won't respond,
>> >temporarily putting them on moderated status may be appropriate until they
>> stop
>> >posting on the tread. This is not to say that the same issues may not
>> arise
>> >again in the future in some other discussion, but sometimes it's necessary
>> to
>> >say, "Enough, let's move on." The persons wanting to get in the last word
>> on the
>> >subject may be unhappy if they're the ones told to move on, but there's no
>> point
>> >in any discussion where everyone equally gets the last word.
>> >
>> >If there is something going on and someone wants to know what's really
>> >happening, the most accurate approach is to get information from the
>> source.
>> >With Skype, it's possible to call anyone in the world for free (if they
>> have
>> >Skype) or inexpensively if they don't. There's no excuse for someone not
>> to
>> >simply clarify things by getting in touch with Ramadoss directly. I'm
>> confident
>> >that he's operating with the best of intentions. The only thing he may be
>> guilty
>> >of is having too strong an opinion on issues regarding theosophical
>> politics,
>> >but I don't think that a participant should think that he or she isn't
>> given a
>> >fair chance to share their differencing views because of that.
>> >
>> >
>> >Which the exception of what I've mentioned - newbie moderation until
>> they're
>> >identified themselves and temporary moderation of a participant if he or
>> she
>> >won't stop on a thread that has been closed for further discussion by the
>> list
>> >owner - I don't believe there are any existing controls, and these two
>> controls
>> >are necessary on any functional list that wants to preserve free inquiry.
>> >
>> >Any questions about the operation of the list should be directed to
>> Ramadoss. I
>> >wish him success in his role as list owner, and hope that everyone will
>> help him
>> >as he completes his learning curve and comes to do an excellent job at
>> keeping
>> >the list free and fully functional.
>> >
>> >Eldon
>> >
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