Theos-Talk Archives (August 2010 Message tt00044)

The only way the United Nations can really interfere is to go to war.   It 
has no leverage with Iran that would work otherwise.
 
Chuck the Heretic
 
www.charlescosimano.com  

 
In a message dated 8/5/2010 8:51:14 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
eletzerich@8trbYwN-d9ISbQrspQhLZ45TXjk9UrDPtRRl2s4Vq5mOJcWBE3-5mWrTD-XyTvI53l37rKNj2q9ifvn3uA.yahoo.invalid writes:

 
 
 
Dear Nigel,

This is most barbarian thing, which is unacceptable. I  think the matter is 
in fact an international matter and not only of influence  of one country 
or another.

The United Nations could also interfere if  they want. Such kind of law 
should be completely abolished. Today is Sakineh  imprisoned and condemned to 
death, tomorrow will be another Sakineh and the  thing will go on and on.

If there is not a strong international  interference, I consider almost 
impossible a diplomatic solution for this  problem to be found. If Iran opens 
one exception, eventually they would need  to change their law. And when one 
has to do with Islamic laws, is as if  someone puts the hand in a "bag full 
of cats".

So such a hope regarding  Brazil and Turkey to find a diplomatic solution, 
are vain in my opinion. In my  opinion all the international community 
should raise their voice_ and  interfere, also stating that such a law should be 
abolished. But unfortunately  this wont happen, because there is no oil or 
money involved.

See the  case of Aung San Suu kyi, years imprisoned by the military regime 
or Burma.  Nothing was done to help the people of Burma or to release her, 
except endless  diplomatic talks which resulted probably in the fact that she 
is still  alive.

Anyway I will send some e-mails to some members of the Brazilian  Section I 
know.

Erica

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(mailto:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com) _, "nhcareyta" <nhcareyta@...>  wrote:
>
> Dear Erica
> 
> Yes, that is correct. That  is why I asked whether there are some wealthy 
Adyar Society Brazilian members  able to bring extra influence on their 
President, perhaps to make another,  more strident attempt.
> 
> That would surely be Theosophy in  action.
> 
> Regards
> Nigel
> 
> --- In _ (http://www.charlescosimano.com/) _theos-talk@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com) _, "Erica L. Georgiades"  <eletzerich@> 
wrote:
> >
> > Yesterday I read on  Washington Post that, Lula the Brazilian 
President, already 
> >  requested to the President of Iran to release her and give her asylum 
in  Brazil. 
> > The request of the President of Brazil was denied.  
> > 
> > 
> > Erica
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > 
> >  ________________________________
> > From: nhcareyta  <nhcareyta@>
> > To: _ (http://www.charlescosimano.com/) _theos-talk@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com) 
> > Sent: Thu, August 5, 2010  3:32:23 PM
> > Subject: theos-talk Action needed
> >  
> > 
> > Dear All
> > 
> > Perhaps some  wealthy Adyar Society Brazilian members can bring 
additional 
> >  pressure to bear on their President to address this outrageous issue?
>  > 
> > "Dear Friends, 
> > 
> > Global pressure  on Iran has saved Sakineh from death by stoning, but 
within days 
> >  she could still be hanged. More pressure from leaders in Brazil and 
Turkey,  
> > Iran's allies, are Sakineh's last hope. Donate below to fund an  
emergency ad 
> > campaign in Brazil and Turkey in the next 72 hours:  
> > 
> > 
> > Sakineh Ashtiani could be executed  for adultery in Iran in the next 
few days, 
> > but two men could  still save her -- the leaders of Brazil and Turkey.
> > 
> >  President Lula and Prime Minister Erdo&#287;an are powerful allies and 
 mediators 
> > with Iran who enjoy great respect there, and both  countries have 
condemned the 
> > case. Now, we need to push them to  deploy all their diplomatic f_orces 
and 
> > persuade Iran to free  Sakineh and stop stoning forever. 
> > 
> > 
> >  Avaaz is launching an emergency ad campaign in influential newspapers 
in  Turkey 
> > and Brazil urging them to press Iran for clemency and  justice. The ads 
will 
> > deliver our half-million strong petition,  reach political circles and 
directly 
> > appeal to Lula's and  Erdo&#287;an's leadership and moral authority. If 
5,000 of 
> >  us donate even a small amount in the next 72 hours, we'll make a 
powerful  
> > statement before it's too late. This may be Sakineh's last hope  -- 
click here to 
> > chip in:
> > 
> > _ (http://www.charlescosimano.com/) 
_https://secure.avaaz.org/en/save_sakinehs_life/?vl_ (https://secure.avaaz.org/en/save_sakinehs_life/?vl) 
> > 
> > Sakineh's  sentence is a farcical travesty of justice. She was 
sentenced to death  
> > by stoning for allegedly having relations with other men --  years 
after her 
> > husband had passed away, despite stoning having  been outlawed in Iran, 
and 
> > despite her not being able to speak  the language of her trial. Her two 
children 
> > launched a campaign  to save her life, and generated a worldwide 
uproar, 
> > including  over 554,000 Avaaz members. Feeling the pressure, the 
Iranian 
> >  government revoked the stoning, but the execution sentence stands.
>  > 
> > Tension has been rising in Iran since the Sakineh case  gained 
attention -- the 
> > regime has threatened to arrest her  children for speaking out and has 
issued an 
> > arrest warrant  against Sakineh's lawyer. He has now gone into hiding 
and his 
> >  family-members have been rounded-up.
> > 
> > But Lula and  Erdo&#287;an have great respect in Iran and can influence 
the 
>  > regime. And they listen to us. Lula had said that he would _not get  
involved in 
> > this case. But after an aide brought his attention  to the massive 
online 
> > campaign, he changed his mind, offering  Sakineh asylum and prompting 
Iranian 
> > authorities to announce  that the case would be quickly resolved. We 
know Lula 
> > listens to  Avaaz campaigns -- in the last year, despite powerful 
opposition, 
>  > members in Brazil have helped persuade Lula to sign off on a law to  
protect the 
> > Amazon and a bold anti-corruption law.
> >  
> > During the last two weeks, over 554,000 of us have signed the  petition 
to Save 
> > Sakineh and end stoning in Iran. We only have  days left to persuade 
Lula and 
> > Erdo&#287;an to act -- and it  may be our last chance to save Sakineh. 
Let's each 
> > pitch in a  small amount and make sure they hear our call to leadership:
> >  
> > _ (http://www.charlescosimano.com/) 
_https://secure.avaaz.org/en/save_sakinehs_life/?vl_ (https://secure.avaaz.org/en/save_sakinehs_life/?vl) _
> > 
> > Sakineh's  case has outraged the entire world by the sheer scale of its 
brutal, 
>  > nonsensical injustice. But in our fight for one woman we make a 
powerful  
> > statement about women, and people, everywhere. In standing up  for one 
person, we 
> > stand up for everyone's right to  justice.
> > 
> > Sakineh's children's have sent out a last  plea: "Do not allow our 
nightmare 
> > become a reality, Today, when  nearly all options have reached 
dead-ends, we 
> > resort to you.  Please help our mother return home!" Click here to 
answer their 
> >  call, and get Erdo&#287;an and Lula to do the same:
> > 
>  > _ (http://www.charlescosimano.com/) 
_https://secure.avaaz.org/en/save_sakinehs_life/?vl_ (https://secure.avaaz.org/en/save_sakinehs_life/?vl) _
> > 
> > With hope  and determination,
> > 
> > Alice, Pascal, Alice W, Ricken,  David, and the Avaaz Team 
> > 
> > SOURCES: 
> >  
> > The Guardian, "Iran stoning woman offered asylum by Brazil's  President 
Lula": 
> > _ (http://www.charlescosimano.com/) 
_http://www.avaaz.org/guardian_sakineh_article_ (http://www.avaaz.org/guardian_sakineh_article) _"
> > 
> > 
>  > 
> > 
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> >
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