Theos-Talk Archives (August 2010 Message tt00043)

Dear Erica

In spite of the considerable political considerations you mention, all of which are accurate, there have been some quite remarkable social and political changes over recent times. Avaaz is one organisation making real headway in some similar situations, so all may not be lost.

In any event, if we do nothing then certainly nothing will happen! So thank you for contacting some of your fellow members. If everyone on t/talk does the same a snowball reaction may occur.

Kind regards
Nigel 

--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Erica" <eletzerich@...> wrote:
>
> Dear Nigel,
> 
> This is most barbarian thing, which is unacceptable. I think the matter is in fact an international matter and not only of influence of one country or another.
> 
> The United Nations could also interfere if they want. Such kind of law should be completely abolished. Today is Sakineh imprisoned and condemned to death, tomorrow will be another Sakineh and the thing will go on and on.
> 
>  If there is not a strong international interference,  I  consider almost impossible a diplomatic solution for this problem to be found. If Iran opens one exception, eventually they would need to change their law. And when one has to do with Islamic laws, is as if someone puts the hand in a "bag full of cats".
> 
> So such a hope regarding Brazil and Turkey to find a diplomatic solution, are vain in my opinion. In my opinion all the international community should raise their voice and interfere, also stating that such a law should be abolished.  But unfortunately this wont happen, because there is no oil or money involved.
> 
> See the case of Aung San Suu kyi,  years imprisoned by the military regime or Burma. Nothing was done to help the people of Burma or to release her, except endless diplomatic talks which resulted probably in the fact that she is still alive.
> 
> Anyway I will send some e-mails to some members of the Brazilian Section I know.
> 
> Erica
> 
> 
> 
> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "nhcareyta" <nhcareyta@> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Erica
> > 
> > Yes, that is correct. That is why I asked whether there are some wealthy Adyar Society Brazilian members able to bring extra influence on their President, perhaps to make another, more strident attempt.
> > 
> > That would surely be Theosophy in action.
> > 
> > Regards
> > Nigel
> > 
> > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Erica L. Georgiades" <eletzerich@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Yesterday I read on Washington Post that, Lula the Brazilian President, already 
> > > requested to the President of Iran to release her and give her asylum in Brazil. 
> > > The request of the President of Brazil was denied. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Erica
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: nhcareyta <nhcareyta@>
> > > To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Thu, August 5, 2010 3:32:23 PM
> > > Subject: theos-talk Action needed
> > > 
> > >   
> > > Dear All
> > > 
> > > Perhaps some wealthy Adyar Society Brazilian members can bring additional 
> > > pressure to bear on their President to address this outrageous issue?
> > > 
> > > "Dear Friends, 
> > > 
> > > Global pressure on Iran has saved Sakineh from death by stoning, but within days 
> > > she could still be hanged. More pressure from leaders in Brazil and Turkey, 
> > > Iran's allies, are Sakineh's last hope. Donate below to fund an emergency ad 
> > > campaign in Brazil and Turkey in the next 72 hours: 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Sakineh Ashtiani could be executed for adultery in Iran in the next few days, 
> > > but two men could still save her -- the leaders of Brazil and Turkey.
> > > 
> > > President Lula and Prime Minister Erdo&#287;an are powerful allies and mediators 
> > > with Iran who enjoy great respect there, and both countries have condemned the 
> > > case. Now, we need to push them to deploy all their diplomatic forces and 
> > > persuade Iran to free Sakineh and stop stoning forever. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Avaaz is launching an emergency ad campaign in influential newspapers in Turkey 
> > > and Brazil urging them to press Iran for clemency and justice. The ads will 
> > > deliver our half-million strong petition, reach political circles and directly 
> > > appeal to Lula's and Erdo&#287;an's leadership and moral authority. If 5,000 of 
> > > us donate even a small amount in the next 72 hours, we'll make a powerful 
> > > statement before it's too late. This may be Sakineh's last hope -- click here to 
> > > chip in:
> > > 
> > > https://secure.avaaz.org/en/save_sakinehs_life/?vl
> > > 
> > > Sakineh's sentence is a farcical travesty of justice. She was sentenced to death 
> > > by stoning for allegedly having relations with other men -- years after her 
> > > husband had passed away, despite stoning having been outlawed in Iran, and 
> > > despite her not being able to speak the language of her trial. Her two children 
> > > launched a campaign to save her life, and generated a worldwide uproar, 
> > > including over 554,000 Avaaz members. Feeling the pressure, the Iranian 
> > > government revoked the stoning, but the execution sentence stands.
> > > 
> > > Tension has been rising in Iran since the Sakineh case gained attention -- the 
> > > regime has threatened to arrest her children for speaking out and has issued an 
> > > arrest warrant against Sakineh's lawyer. He has now gone into hiding and his 
> > > family-members have been rounded-up.
> > > 
> > > But Lula and Erdo&#287;an have great respect in Iran and can influence the 
> > > regime. And they listen to us. Lula had said that he would not get involved in 
> > > this case. But after an aide brought his attention to the massive online 
> > > campaign, he changed his mind, offering Sakineh asylum and prompting Iranian 
> > > authorities to announce that the case would be quickly resolved. We know Lula 
> > > listens to Avaaz campaigns -- in the last year, despite powerful opposition, 
> > > members in Brazil have helped persuade Lula to sign off on a law to protect the 
> > > Amazon and a bold anti-corruption law.
> > > 
> > > During the last two weeks, over 554,000 of us have signed the petition to Save 
> > > Sakineh and end stoning in Iran. We only have days left to persuade Lula and 
> > > Erdo&#287;an to act -- and it may be our last chance to save Sakineh. Let's each 
> > > pitch in a small amount and make sure they hear our call to leadership:
> > > 
> > > https://secure.avaaz.org/en/save_sakinehs_life/?vl
> > > 
> > > Sakineh's case has outraged the entire world by the sheer scale of its brutal, 
> > > nonsensical injustice. But in our fight for one woman we make a powerful 
> > > statement about women, and people, everywhere. In standing up for one person, we 
> > > stand up for everyone's right to justice.
> > > 
> > > Sakineh's children's have sent out a last plea: "Do not allow our nightmare 
> > > become a reality, Today, when nearly all options have reached dead-ends, we 
> > > resort to you. Please help our mother return home!" Click here to answer their 
> > > call, and get Erdo&#287;an and Lula to do the same:
> > > 
> > > https://secure.avaaz.org/en/save_sakinehs_life/?vl
> > > 
> > > With hope and determination,
> > > 
> > > Alice, Pascal, Alice W, Ricken, David, and the Avaaz Team 
> > > 
> > > SOURCES: 
> > > 
> > > The Guardian, "Iran stoning woman offered asylum by Brazil's President Lula": 
> > > http://www.avaaz.org/guardian_sakineh_article";
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
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