Theos-Talk Archives (July 2010 Message tt00121)

Let me also add that I sign my messages as MKR and to indicate that the
author is me so there should be no doubt in anyone's mind who the author is.
I hope there is no more confusion on this issue.

MKR

On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 1:54 PM, MKR <mkr777@gmail.com> wrote:

> All the posts for theos-talk and other mailing lists (I participate in
> several non theosophical as well) are from just ONE email address -
> MKR777_at_GMAIL.COM,  while the name attached may be mkr or
> ramadoss226(Yahoo ID) depending on where it originates; my computer or yahoo
> web interface.
>
> I just wanted to clarify so that there is no mis-perception in anyone's
> mind. I hope my msg accomplished it.
>
> MKR
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 8:47 AM, Erica L. Georgiades <eletzerich@yahoo.com
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Doss,
>>
>> I don't think you should justify how many e-mails you have. At this point
>> there
>> is a delusion about conspiracy going on in the T.S. Such idea
>> unfortunately is
>> promoted by some leaders. In fact I have been following your posts and you
>> have
>> a style of your own to write, so far I haven't noticed a change on it.
>>
>> Erica
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: MKR <mkr777@gmail.com <mkr777%40gmail.com>>
>> To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Wed, July 28, 2010 3:57:31 PM
>> Subject: Theos-World Re: Comments on Independence etc
>>
>>
>> Your response is well appreciated. Let me add a few short comments.
>>
>> Many in the theosophical circles know my name and that I live in San
>> Antonio, Texas. Everyone knows that for my postings I use the email
>> address
>> - MKR777_at_GMAIL.COM. I know of no other theosophist with my name
>> Ramadoss.
>>
>> When the message is sent from gmail it will show my name as MKR. When I
>> use
>> the yahoo web interface to post a message, the email address is still
>> MKR777_at_GMAIL.COM whereas my yahoo name [ramadoss226] shows .
>>
>> I sign my messages as MKR or Ramadoss. Long time ago, I used my real nick
>> name -Doss- and I no longer use it on msgs posted here and elsewhere to
>> avoid confusion between my name and that of another well known and well
>> respected theosophist who lives in my city and whose name is Doss.
>>
>> As for the list and fairness of its management, I leave it to the
>> subscribers to judge. As is always the case, not everyone will agree with
>> every decision one takes in life.
>>
>> By the way the response you quoted on your contact with Eldon was his and
>> not mine. I hope it was a typo.
>>
>> MKR
>>
>> There is no religion higher than truth
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 7:00 AM, Spirituality <mail@katinkahesselink.net<mail%40katinkahesselink.net>
>> >wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Hi MKR,
>> >
>> > That's great to hear, but not really what people are concerned about I
>> > think.
>> >
>> > Let's go back a bit. At the Theosophical World Congress, and through
>> email
>> > in the days after it, several people expressed their concern to me that
>> your
>> > management of theos-talk was not impartial. That is: you have sensored
>> > people who had perfectly decent contributions to make (Preetthi and
>> Govert
>> > and perhaps more) and seemed informed extraordinarily quickly of any
>> > movement on the part of Radha/Pedro etc.
>> >
>> > Hearing that, and thinking that Eldon was still ultimately in charge of
>> > this list, I asked him to use his authority to get the list back on
>> track,
>> > or close it. Whichever he preferred. He probably contacted you - and the
>> > below is your response.
>> >
>> > Personally I don't give a darn whether you make money on theosophy or
>> not.
>> > Obviously it is easier to be critical for those who aren't in the employ
>> of
>> > the TS, but that doesn't mean that those who aren't - are necessarily
>> > impartial. They're just financially independent of the TS - which is the
>> > situation for most of us here.
>> >
>> > For me, and several of my correspondents - the question is: why has
>> > theos-talk stopped being the open forum it used to be?
>> >
>> > And more specifically: how come you use several email addresses to post
>> on
>> > here? What are you trying to hide? In fact, the speculation has come up
>> that
>> > MKR hides several people on several continents.
>> >
>> > Now I'm all for freedom and would have preferred for
>> theosophical.ning.comto
>> >stay open for everybody and the search engines. Glad some of us set up
>> > theosophy.net last year: it IS open (just checked).
>> >
>> > However, I'm also all for accountability. The internet gives us all the
>> > opportunity to hide behind screen names and loose all fairness in the
>> > process. No need to be polite or just when nobody knows who you are.
>> >
>> > Now - in case this gets censored - I will be saving the text of this on
>> my
>> > pc. I don't really want to post it elsewhere, but I do think the below
>> has
>> > made a response necessary.
>> >
>> > I will also be deleting any links to theos-talk on my own sites BTW as
>> it
>> > doesn't seem like this forum serves any purpose to the theosophical
>> movement
>> > any more.
>> >
>> > Best wishes,
>> > Katinka Hesselink
>> >
>> > Disclosure: The Dutch TS paid me for their recent redesign, so I guess
>> I'm
>> > not independent by your definition. That hasn't stopped me from speaking
>> out
>> > where I see fit though.
>> > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com><theos-talk%
>> 40yahoogroups.com>, MKR
>> > <mkr777@...> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > All organized entities such as governments, business corporations,
>> > spiritual
>> > > organizations, and even individual leaders and politicians are always
>> on
>> > the
>> > > look out for opportunities to influence the individuals such as
>> > membership
>> > > and even media people to either keep them in line or influence them to
>> > act
>> > > or write in ways supporting the activities and action of the
>> > organizations
>> > > and its leaders or even act as catÃââs paws to handle touchy issues.
>> Many
>> > > times, clever individuals and leaders will stay back in the background
>> > and
>> > > let others do their dirty work.
>> > >
>> > > In organizations, range of techniques used may be outright giving
>> money
>> > > grants, reimbursing the travel expenses, offer platforms to lecture or
>> > write
>> > > or even help them to move up in the leadership ladder. In theosophical
>> > > circles, due to the common membership in other officially unconnected
>> > > organizations, the fear of paying a price will keep writers and
>> lecturers
>> > in
>> > > line with official wishes.
>> > >
>> > > The reason why I bring this up is because it is necessary to clarify
>> my
>> > > personal position in all activities and writings related to
>> theosophical
>> > and
>> > > other issues. Firstly, as I have mentioned several times before, I
>> > maintain
>> > > my independence because of several reasons. I am not looking forward
>> to
>> > hold
>> > > any elected office in future and I have an independent lively hood
>> which
>> > > does not depend on TS or any of its members. Also in the past I have
>> > never
>> > > received any manner of financial support from TS or any of its
>> members.
>> > >
>> > > I am reiterating the above so that the newbees are very clear as to
>> where
>> > I
>> > > come from and the independence gives some credibility to what I write
>> on
>> > > this and other theosophical forums. In todayÃââs Internet environment,
>> > > transparent and open clarification of the independence issue is good
>> for
>> > > anyone in the cyberspace - writers, participants, website owners,
>> website
>> > > operators etc. I hope the above clarification helps.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > MKR
>> > >
>> > > There is No Religion Higher Than Truth
>> > >
>> > >
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