Theos-Talk Archives (February 2010 Message tt00200)

I wonder who "they" are which you refer to.
The website of The Theosophical Society in Adyar promotes a view in direct opposition to the Original Programe. There is no middle-path there.
Their intentions might be very well, but the words on the website are not and the present day Constitution and Rules and not allright with regard to relating to political issues. That must be plain for everyone to see.

In that sense the Adyar website follow Annie Besant's stance on a TS Programe and certainly not H. P. Blavatsky's, and the Original Programe and not even H. S. Olcott's. In other respect they might not follow the Programe given in Besant's time of Leadership of the TS.

Whether this has to do with the "Family"-business you refer to, is not the main point.
Hansome is who handsome does, not matter what family one belong to. Yet a President of the TS, who unwisely create a "Family-confusion" among the members of the TS, can hardly be said to be operating in accordance the the original Object of promoting a universal Brotherhood of Humanity, well, unless such an activity is compassionate.

These are my views.


M. Sufilight

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: preethi muthiah 
  To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 10:37 AM
  Subject: Re: Theos-World Bring the Theosophical Society back to its original lines!


    
  Morten,

  I do not even think they follow Annie Besant and others. What is happening in the TS today is called anarchy or is the word oligarchy...too much family business...that is what the TS at Adyar at least has boiled down to....

  Preethi

  --- On Mon, 15/2/10, Augoeides-222@comcast.net <Augoeides-222@comcast.net> wrote:

  From: Augoeides-222@comcast.net <Augoeides-222@comcast.net>
  Subject: Re: Theos-World Bring the Theosophical Society back to its original lines!
  To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
  Date: Monday, 15 February, 2010, 6:53 AM

   

  Morten, 

  How many era's were there for the "Conditioned Mind of all mankind"? 

  John 

  ----- Original Message ----- 

  From: "Morten Nymann Olesen" <global-theosophy@ stofanet. dk> 

  To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com 

  Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 1:02:59 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 

  Subject: Re: Theos-World Bring the Theosophical Society back to its original lines! 

  Dear John 

  My views are: 

  I wonder if you are referring to me? 

  Calling me "Boss" I find not to be helpful to the promulgation of the theosophical teachings. I am not a "Boss" more than anyone else on this planet, at least until someone can really truely prove it to be a false position. 

  Your question cannot be considered compassionate. And I think you know that. 

  - - - - - - - 

  A few more words: 

  If one never should allow anyone to be expelled as a member of the TS or a given ES, then one should follow the stance: Do not mind, Do not matter. 

  And such a position I will not agree upon. There are several other groups to follow for those, who - for the time being - do not find sympathy with the Object of aiming at the creation of a Universal Brotherhood or Universal Compassion between all humans. The Messiah Craze groups and dogmatic Churches have branches of that kind. 

  All those who are in sympathy with the main Objects as they were given in the origianal Programe aught not to be expelled from the TS. But the problem is that the TS today is not following the Original Programe, and I think I have proven this in more than one e-mail at this forum. They follow something they call the "New Era" given by Annie Besant and others. And this "New Era" supported and still supports meddling with politics and a political involvement of the TS. 

  This is what the TS Adyar website says today. 

  Form the TS Adyar website we have, Feb. 2010: 

  "With Mrs. Besant a new era began. She gave a great lead in making Theosophy practical, urging members to theosophize the various fields: religious, social, economic, political. 

  http://www.ts- adyar.org/ history.html 

  ThÃs not in accordance with the Original Programe. Politics aught not to be endorsed and promoted by leading member of the TS and Annie Besant did it, and turned herself into a walking lie, supporting the English Crown under the Commonwealth so the world could be ruled by it with weapons and all. 

  And she falsely claimed that H.S. Olcott and H. P. Blavatsky supported the creation of the National Congress of India in her book. "The future of Indian politics", 1922 - Published through the apparently NON-POLITICAL: The Theosophical Publishing House! 

  A quote from "The future of Indian politics" by Annie Besant: 

  "The new departure in 1913 resembled in one marked way the new departure when the National Congress was planned in 1884. The seed of both was planted by the Theosophical Society. It was at the Theosophical Convention of that year that a small group of earnest Theo-sophists â deeply concerned for the political future of their country and aroused to a sense of her past powers and her then present impotence by the awakening crusades of H. P. Blavatsky and Henry Steele Olcott, stirring the educated to self-respect and res-pect for their Nation â meeting in Adyar, decided to make an effort for political redemption". 

  ( http://www.archive. org/details/ futureofindianpo 00besarich ) 

  Until the TS Adyar and all other theosophical groups clearly add what they or others previously have deleted in the Constitution and Rules about offences on political involvements by members of the TS, I will consider their activities not to be in accordance with the Original Programe and therefore ask them for a proper explanation about why they have such a stance as the one given by Annie Besant in the above. 

  Here are the words, which were deleted after 1891: 

  "ARTICLE XIII 

  Offences 

  1. Any Fellow who shall in any way attempt to involve the Society In political disputes shall be immediately expelled." 

  (signed H. S. Olcott and seven other names B. Keightley being one of them, and later published in The Theosophist, January 1891.) 

  One question: 

  Is there anyone on this forum who is aware of when the above article were actually deleted from the Constitution and Rules of the TS, and why it actually were deleted? 

  M. Sufilight 

  ----- Original Message ----- 

  From: Augoeides-222@ comcast.net 

  To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com 

  Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 8:36 PM 

  Subject: Re: Theos-World Bring the Theosophical Society back to its original lines! 

  Hey Boss, 

  Do you want us to build the stake and wood pile in the front yard again so we can burn that dirty heretic? 

  John 

  ----- Original Message ----- 

  From: "Morten Nymann Olesen" < global-theosophy@ stofanet. dk > 

  To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com 

  Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 8:55:19 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 

  Subject: Re: Theos-World Bring the Theosophical Society back to its original lines! 



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