Theos-Talk Archives (February 2010 Message tt00196)

On Transparency in the Exoteric Theosophical Society.
In the Exoteric Theosophical Society you will always have a great biodiversity of agendas. Some of the members will here depending on the strings of Objects and Offences attached to the Exoteric Theosophical Society - at the same time be members of various groups claiming to be esoterical or secret. This can hardly be avoided. The most important issue is to keep the Exoteric Theosophical Society on track, so it does not deviate from the Original Programe, while it as always adapts itself to time, place, people and circumstances. A vital part of the Original Programe is to end the strifes between the worlds religions. The Exoteric Theosophical Society is open to all members provided they are in sympathy with the Object of creating a Universal Brotherhood or a Universal Fellowship of Heartflow between all humans. And provided they do not go against the Article on Offences given in 1883, 1886, 1891 and other years, where one paragraph is the Offence to meddle with politics and cunningly turn the Exoteric Theosophical Society in to a political party etc. The Original Programe from 1875 and other years was against dogmatism of all kinds and found such to be in opposition to the Objects of the Society. Sometimes I wished that I has more access to the Original Programe for all the years 1875-1891, but I do not. Despite the importance the Constitution and Rules had and still have if one follow the view that the Society is going to be the Cornerstone of the Wisdom-Religion of the future of humanity as mentioned in a Mahatma Letter - the Constitution and Rules of the Exoteric Theosophical Society for 1875-1891 are as far as I know not available online on the Internet.

So various Esoteric Societies or secret societies will fight to gain control of the Exoteric Theosophical Society. This can hardly be avoided in our times, where some people are dishonest. If they gain the upper hand, we will perhaps be in need to let the Society go. As the Master said: We make no unwilling slaves.

So it is down here in the physical. Organisations come and go, and have done so through the centuries. Yet, the Atma remains within.
So that is why I suggest that the Original Programe is kept going. It can be done with the old two-level or three level attachment of the Exoteric Theosophical Society - and with the three levels or more in a officially promoted non-attached and totally independant Esoteric Section. Yet, there are levels in Esoteric Sections, which do not operate through the need of using the physical level of existence except due to compassion.

These are my views.
They might need to be polished a bit.



M. Sufilight


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Cass Silva 
  To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 2:59 AM
  Subject: Re: Theos-World Autonomy of TS National Societies or Sections


    
  Morten,
  How can you advocate an esoteric section and at the same time advocate transparency?

  Cass

  >
  >From: Morten Nymann Olesen <global-theosophy@stofanet.dk>
  >To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
  >Sent: Mon, 15 February, 2010 1:55:25 AM
  >Subject: Re: Theos-World Autonomy of TS National Societies or Sections
  >
  >  
  >Dear MKR
  >
  >My views are:
  >
  >1,
  >Do you have some suggestion so to adequately improve of the Constitution and Rules of the TS?
  >
  >Constitution and Rules of The Theosophical Society or what is called Full Text Of The International Rules And Regulations ( http://www.theosoph yforward. com/2009/ 06/full-text- of-the-internati onal-rules- and-regulations- memorandum- of-association/ ) 
  >
  >2.
  >MKR. - I think a great number of readers would like a reference documenting these words as coming from Radha Burnier: 
  >"As is natural, any serious trouble in the TS always arises in the ES, and spreads outward through the larger organism."
  >
  >I ask because this is - most clearly - a deviation from the original program given by the Founders and H. P. Blavatsky on whether ES should 'boss' TS or not.
  >Try to carefully read the below official article by H. P. Blvatsky. This read it carefully.
  >
  >- - - - - - - - 
  >H. P. Blavatsky said in A Puzzle from Adyar:
  >To this I, the âHead of the Esoteric Section,â answer:
  >1. Mr. Bertram Keightleyâs letter, though containing the truth, and nothing but the truth, was never intended for publication, as a sentence in it proves. Therefore the acting Editor had no right to publish it.
  >2. Fellows of the E. S. having to be first of all Fellows of the Theosophical Society, what does the sentence âFellows known to be members of the E.S.ââwho stand accused by Mr. Harte (or even by some idiotic reports afloat in the Society) of âarbitrary and underhand proceedingsââmean? Is not such a sentence a gross insult thrown into the face of honourable menâfar better Theosophists than any of their accusersâand of myself?
  >3. What were the silly reports? That the âBritish or the American Section,â and even the âBlavatsky Lodgeâ of the Theosophical Society wanted to âboss Adyar.â For this is what is said in The Theosophist in the alleged âdisclaimerâ:â
  >
  >Mr. Keightley tells this Commissioner that he must not believe âthat the Esoteric Section has any, even the slightest, pretension to âbossâ the Theosophical Society or anything of the kind.â Again he says: âWe are all, H.P.B. first and foremost, just as loyal to the Theosophical Society and to Adyar as the Colonel can possibly be.â And yet again Amen! But before I reproduce the acting editorâs further marvellous comments thereon, I claim the right to say a few words on the subject. Since, as said, the letter was never meant to be paraded in printâchiefly, perhaps, because qui sâexcuse sâaccuseâit is no criticism to show that it contains that which I would describe as a meaningless flapdoodle, or, rather, a pair of them, something quite pardonable in a private and hastily written letter, but quite unpardonable and grotesque when appearing as a published document.
  >1st. That the E.S. had never any pretensions to âboss the T.S.â stands to reason: with the exception of Col. Olcott, the President, the Esoteric Section has nothing whatever to do with the Theosophical Society, its Council or officers. It is a Section entirely apart from the exoteric body, and independent of it, H.P.B. alone being responsible for its members, as shown in the official announcement over the signature of the President-Founder himself.* It follows, therefore, that the E. S., as a body, owes no allegiance whatever to the Theosophical Society, as a society, least of all to Adyar."
  >...
  >"ââââââââââ
  >* [Ref. is here to Col. Olcottâs Official Announcement in Lucifer Vol. III, October 15th, 1888, p. 176. It may be found in Volume X of the present Series.âCompiler.] "
  >http://www.katinkah esselink. net/blavatsky/ articles/ v11/y1889_ 049.htm
  >
  >M. Sufilight
  >
  >----- Original Message ----- 
  >From: MKR 
  >To: theos-talk 
  >Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 2:37 PM
  >Subject: Theos-World Autonomy of TS National Societies or Sections
  >
  >From time to time, the question of autonomy of the National Sections in the
  >TS has come up in the minds of the members. A century ago, there were bitter
  >internecine quarrels among members of the American Section. A large number
  >of members appealed to Annie Besant who was International President to
  >interfere in the matters of the American Section. By the way, the quarrels
  >led to her suspending the ES for a year in the USA and stated âAs is
  >natural, any serious trouble in the TS always arises in the ES, and spreads
  >outward through the larger organism.â [Does this ring a bell when we
  >consider what has been going on since the start of the nomination process
  >for the International President by the General Council members all of whom
  >are high level ES and Masonic Members?]
  >
  >In response to the appeal, she clarified the autonomy of the National
  >Sections which is helpful to understand the constitution of the TS which was
  >crafted with the advise from wise Founders whose tool the TS is. I am
  >adapting Besantâs response.
  >
  >A National Society or Section, is autonomous, and no appeal lies to the
  >General Council. An appeal to the President only lies if a member has been
  >expelled from the TS by his National Society or if a rule has been passed
  >contrary to the Constitution of the TS; the member can be reinstated in the
  >TS, or his expulsion confirmed by the President; or the President can
  >declare invalid a rule which contravenes the Constitution.
  >
  >I find nothing in the Constitution which permits an appeal to the General
  >Council by a dissident minority within a National Society, the bylaws of the
  >TS in America cannot give to the General Council a power of interference
  >with an autonomous National Society, the freedom of which is guaranteed by
  >the Constitution.
  >
  >In passing, we have seen messages regarding the issues in Brazil and only
  >members there have the authority to decide how the section is operated.
  >
  >MKR
  >
  >There is no religion higher than Truth
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