Theos-Talk Archives (February 2010 Message tt00115)

I hold this to be a false accusation.


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Drpsionic@aol.com 
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  Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 4:13 PM
  Subject: Re: Theos-World Bring the Theosophical Society back to its original lines!


    
  It is rather hard to ask one of the Masters anything as they tend to be 
  high on something in Morya's pipe and give really strange answers.

  Chuck the Heretic

  www.charlescosimano.com 

  In a message dated 2/10/2010 10:01:43 A.M. Central Standard Time, 
  global-theosophy@stofanet.dk writes:

  Dear Cass and friends

  My views are:

  A new Esoterical School might be necessary or a good and compassionate. 
  Remember that we emply agents in various groups and organisations. But I 
  find, that another Theosophical Society following the original lines would be a 
  much better idea, - well provided that the present Theosophical Society is 
  not able to show us that they still follow the original lines given by the 
  Masters, and why their lines or program are better than the original one.

  Such a Knowledge is esoterical knowledge. And that kind of Knowledge is 
  not, (so I have been told here at Theos-talk), officially claimed by the 
  leaders Theosophical Society today. An example: Try to ask the Master whether 
  they consider their Himalayan group to be an elite group. Do you think that 
  the Masters Himalayan group will reveal all and everything esoterical to 
  ever_yone?

  M. Sufilight

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Cass Silva 
  To: 

  _ (http://www.charlescosimano.com/) _theos-talk@yahoogrotheos-t_ 
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  Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 11:54 PM
  Subject: Re: Theos-World Bring the Theosophical Society back to its 
  original lines!

  I hope you are not suggesting that new esoteric schools be formed? What 
  knowledge is so esoteric that it can now only be shared by an elite group?

  Cass

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  >From: Morten Nymann Olesen <_ (http://www.charlescosimano.com/) 
  _global-theosophy@global-thgl_ (mailto:global-theosophy@stofanet.dk) _>
  >To: _ (http://www.charlescosimano.com/) _theos-talk@yahoogrotheos-t_ 
  (mailto:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com) 
  >Sent: Wed, 10 February, 2010 6:18:19 AM
  >Subject: Theos-World Bring the Theosophical Society back to its original 
  lines!
  >
  > 
  >Dear friends
  >
  >My views are:
  >
  >Sometimes one would do well in reading the words given by H. P. Blavatsky
  >about the reason for the formation of the Esoteric Section...
  >
  >H. P. Blavatsky said to the members of the Esoteric Section:
  >"This degree of the Esoteric Section is probationary, and its general 
  purpose is to prepare and fit the student for the study of practical occultism 
  or Raj yoga. Therefore, in this degree, the student--save in exceptional 
  cases--will not be taught how to produce physical phenomena, nor will any 
  magical powers be allowed to develop in him; nor, if possessing such powers 
  naturally, will he be permitted to exercise them before he has thoroughly 
  mastered the knowledge of SELF, of the psycho-physiologica l processes 
  (taking place on the occult plane) in the human body generally, and until he has 
  in abeyance all his lower passions and his PERSONAL SELF.
  >The real Head of the Esoteric Section is a Master, of whom H. P. 
  Blavatsky is the mouthpiece for this Section. He is one of those Adepts referred to 
  in theosophical literature, and concerned in the formation of the 
  Theosophical Society. "
  >. . . . . . .
  >"The Theosophical Society has just entered upon the fourteenth year of 
  its existence; and if it has accomplished great, one may almost say 
  stupendous, results on the exoteric and utilitarian plane, it has proved a dead 
  failure on all those points which rank foremost among the objects of its 
  original establishment. Thus, as a "Universal Brotherhood, " or even as a 
  fraternity, one among many, it has descended to the level of all those Societies 
  whose pretensions are great, but whose names are simply masks,--nay, even 
  SHAMS. Nor can the excuse be pleaded that it was led into such an undignified 
  course owing to its having been
  >impeded in its natural development, and almost extinguished, by reason of 
  the conspiracies of its enemies openly begun in 1884. Because even before 
  that date there never was that solidarity in the ranks of our Society which 
  would not only enable it to resist all external attacks, but also make it 
  possible for greater, wider, and more tangible help to be given to all its 
  members by those who are always ready to give help when we are fit to 
  receive it. When trouble arose, too many were quick to doubt and despair, and few 
  indeed were they who had worked for the Cause and not for themselves. The 
  attacks of the enemy have given the Society some discretion in the conduct 
  of its external progress, but its real internal condition has not improved, 
  and the members, in their efforts towards spiritual culture, still require 
  that help which solidarity in the ranks can alone give them the right to 
  ask. The Masters can give but little assistance to a Body not
  thoroughly united in purpose and feeling, and which breaks its first 
  fundamental rule--universal brotherly love, without distinction of race, creed 
  or colour; nor to a Society, many members of which pass their lives in 
  judging, condemning, and often reviling other members in a most untheosophical, 
  not to say disgraceful, manner."
  >. . . . . . .
  >"For this reason it is now contemplated to gather the "elect" of the T.S. 
  and to call them to action. It is only by a select group of brave souls, a 
  handful of determined men and women hungry for genuine spiritual 
  development and the acquirement of soul-wisdom, that the Theosophical Society at 
  large can be brought back to its original lines. It is through an Esoteric 
  Section alone--i.e., a group in which all the members, even if unacquainted 
  with one another, work for each other, and by working for all work for 
  themselves-- that the great Exoteric Society may be redeemed and made to realize 
  that in union and harmony alone lie its strength and power. The object of 
  this Section, then, is to help the future growth of the Theosophical Society 
  as a whole in the true direction, by promoting brotherly union at least 
  among the few.
  >All know that this end was in view when the Society was established, and 
  even in its mere unpledged ranks there was a possibility for development 
  and knowledge, until it began to show want of real union; and now it must be 
  saved from future dangers by the united aim, brotherly feeling, and 
  constant exertions of the members of this Esoteric Section. Therefore, anyone who 
  has signed the pledge without realizing this is earnestly recommended to 
  reconsider his position, and to withdraw unless he is prepared to devote 
  himself to the carrying out of this purpose. Once offered the grand example of 
  practical altruism, of the noble lives of those who learn to master the 
  great knowledge but to help others, and who strive to acquire powers but to 
  place them at the service of their fellow-men, the whole theosophical 
  community may yet be steered into action, and led to follow the example set before 
  them.
  >The Esoteric Section is thus "set apart" for the salvation of the whole 
  Society, and its_ course from its first steps will be an arduous and uphill 
  work for its members, though a great reward lies behind the many obstacles 
  once they are overcome.
  >_ (http://www.charlescosimano.com/) _http://www.katinkah_ 
  (http://www.katinkah/) esselink. net/blavatsky/ articles/ v7/yxxxx_ 019.htm
  >
  >M. Sufilight asks and comments:
  >I ask your compassionate hearts as honest Seekers after Truth :
  >
  >Do you my dear readers understand that, the Esoteric Section was 
  according to H. P. Blavatsky created in 1888 so that "the Theosophical Society at 
  large can be brought back to its original lines"; the lines openly deviated 
  from in 1884?
  >
  >Did this imply turning it towards a more or less blurred or openly 
  declared political involvement à la A. O. Hume - National Congress of India? I 
  would clearly say no, and no a thousand times!
  >
  >Did this imply asserting a Messiah in the flesh as the World Teacher of 
  the Age (The Maitreya) as a dogma or propagandized doctrine to follow? I 
  would clearly say no, and no a thousand times!
  >
  >Did this imply rejecting the view that "No Theosophist should be silent 
  when he hears evil reports or slanders spread about the Society, or innocent 
  persons, whether they be his colleagues or outsiders. " (The Key to the_ 
  Theosophist, 2ed., 1890, p. 250)? I would clearly say no, and no a thousand 
  times!
  >
  >Did it only imply this with reagard to physically present humans or did 
  it also imply it with regard deceased ones? I would clearly say both issues 
  count, because people not living in the physical are present in our 
  universe!
  >
  >M. Sufilight
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