Theos-Talk Archives (February 2010 Message tt00113)

It is rather hard to ask one of the Masters anything as they tend to be  
high on something in Morya's pipe and give really strange answers.
 
Chuck the Heretic
 
www.charlescosimano.com  

 
In a message dated 2/10/2010 10:01:43 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
global-theosophy@stofanet.dk writes:

 
 
 
Dear Cass and friends

My views are:

A new Esoterical School  might be necessary or a good and compassionate. 
Remember that we emply agents  in various groups and organisations. But I 
find, that another Theosophical  Society following the original lines would be a 
much better idea, - well  provided that the present Theosophical Society is 
not able to show us that  they still follow the original lines given by the 
Masters, and why their lines  or program are better than the original one.

Such a Knowledge is  esoterical knowledge. And that kind of Knowledge is 
not, (so I have been told  here at Theos-talk), officially claimed by the 
leaders Theosophical Society  today. An example: Try to ask the Master whether 
they consider their Himalayan  group to be an elite group. Do you think that 
the Masters Himalayan group will  reveal all and everything esoterical to 
ever_yone?

M.  Sufilight

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Cass Silva 
To:  




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Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010  11:54 PM
Subject: Re: Theos-World Bring the Theosophical Society back to  its 
original lines!

I hope you are not suggesting that new esoteric  schools be formed? What 
knowledge is so esoteric that it can now only be  shared by an elite group?

Cass

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>From: Morten Nymann  Olesen <_ (http://www.charlescosimano.com/) 
_global-theosophy@global-thgl_ (mailto:global-theosophy@stofanet.dk) _>
>To: _ (http://www.charlescosimano.com/) _theos-talk@yahoogrotheos-t_ 
(mailto:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com) 
>Sent: Wed, 10 February, 2010  6:18:19 AM
>Subject: Theos-World Bring the Theosophical Society back to  its original 
lines!
>
> 
>Dear friends
>
>My  views are:
>
>Sometimes one would do well in reading the words  given by H. P. Blavatsky
>about the reason for the formation of the  Esoteric Section...
>
>H. P. Blavatsky said to the members of the  Esoteric Section:
>"This degree of the Esoteric Section is probationary,  and its general 
purpose is to prepare and fit the student for the study of  practical occultism 
or Raj yoga. Therefore, in this degree, the student--save  in exceptional 
cases--will not be taught how to produce physical phenomena,  nor will any 
magical powers be allowed to develop in him; nor, if possessing  such powers 
naturally, will he be permitted to exercise them before he has  thoroughly 
mastered the knowledge of SELF, of the psycho-physiologica l  processes 
(taking place on the occult plane) in the human body generally, and  until he has 
in abeyance all his lower passions and his PERSONAL  SELF.
>The real Head of the Esoteric Section is a Master, of whom H. P.  
Blavatsky is the mouthpiece for this Section. He is one of those Adepts  referred to 
in theosophical literature, and concerned in the formation of the  
Theosophical Society. "
>. . . . . . .
>"The Theosophical Society  has just entered upon the fourteenth year of 
its existence; and if it has  accomplished great, one may almost say 
stupendous, results on the exoteric and  utilitarian plane, it has proved a dead 
failure on all those points which rank  foremost among the objects of its 
original establishment. Thus, as a  "Universal Brotherhood, " or even as a 
fraternity, one among many, it has  descended to the level of all those Societies 
whose pretensions are great, but  whose names are simply masks,--nay, even 
SHAMS. Nor can the excuse be pleaded  that it was led into such an undignified 
course owing to its having  been
>impeded in its natural development, and almost extinguished, by  reason of 
the conspiracies of its enemies openly begun in 1884. Because even  before 
that date there never was that solidarity in the ranks of our Society  which 
would not only enable it to resist all external attacks, but also make  it 
possible for greater, wider, and more tangible help to be given to all its  
members by those who are always ready to give help when we are fit to 
receive  it. When trouble arose, too many were quick to doubt and despair, and few 
 indeed were they who had worked for the Cause and not for themselves. The  
attacks of the enemy have given the Society some discretion in the conduct 
of  its external progress, but its real internal condition has not improved, 
and  the members, in their efforts towards spiritual culture, still require 
that  help which solidarity in the ranks can alone give them the right to 
ask. The  Masters can give but little assistance to a Body not
thoroughly united in  purpose and feeling, and which breaks its first 
fundamental rule--universal  brotherly love, without distinction of race, creed 
or colour; nor to a  Society, many members of which pass their lives in 
judging, condemning, and  often reviling other members in a most untheosophical, 
not to say disgraceful,  manner."
>. . . . . . .
>"For this reason it is now contemplated  to gather the "elect" of the T.S. 
and to call them to action. It is only by a  select group of brave souls, a 
handful of determined men and women hungry for  genuine spiritual 
development and the acquirement of soul-wisdom, that the  Theosophical Society at 
large can be brought back to its original lines. It is  through an Esoteric 
Section alone--i.e., a group in which all the members,  even if unacquainted 
with one another, work for each other, and by working for  all work for 
themselves-- that the great Exoteric Society may be redeemed and  made to realize 
that in union and harmony alone lie its strength and power.  The object of 
this Section, then, is to help the future growth of the  Theosophical Society 
as a whole in the true direction, by promoting brotherly  union at least 
among the few.
>All know that this end was in view when  the Society was established, and 
even in its mere unpledged ranks there was a  possibility for development 
and knowledge, until it began to show want of real  union; and now it must be 
saved from future dangers by the united aim,  brotherly feeling, and 
constant exertions of the members of this Esoteric  Section. Therefore, anyone who 
has signed the pledge without realizing this is  earnestly recommended to 
reconsider his position, and to withdraw unless he is  prepared to devote 
himself to the carrying out of this purpose. Once offered  the grand example of 
practical altruism, of the noble lives of those who learn  to master the 
great knowledge but to help others, and who strive to acquire  powers but to 
place them at the service of their fellow-men, the whole  theosophical 
community may yet be steered into action, and led to follow the  example set before 
them.
>The Esoteric Section is thus "set apart" for  the salvation of the whole 
Society, and its_ course from its first steps will  be an arduous and uphill 
work for its members, though a great reward lies  behind the many obstacles 
once they are overcome.
>_ (http://www.charlescosimano.com/) _http://www.katinkah_ 
(http://www.katinkah/)  esselink. net/blavatsky/ articles/  v7/yxxxx_ 019.htm
>
>M. Sufilight asks and comments:
>I ask  your compassionate hearts as honest Seekers after Truth :
>
>Do  you my dear readers understand that, the Esoteric Section was 
according to H.  P. Blavatsky created in 1888 so that "the Theosophical Society at 
large can be  brought back to its original lines"; the lines openly deviated 
from in  1884?
>
>Did this imply turning it towards a more or less blurred  or openly 
declared political involvement à la A. O. Hume - National Congress  of India? I 
would clearly say no, and no a thousand times!
>
>Did  this imply asserting a Messiah in the flesh as the World Teacher of 
the Age  (The Maitreya) as a dogma or propagandized doctrine to follow? I 
would clearly  say no, and no a thousand times!
>
>Did this imply rejecting the  view that "No Theosophist should be silent 
when he hears evil reports or  slanders spread about the Society, or innocent 
persons, whether they be his  colleagues or outsiders. " (The Key to the_ 
Theosophist, 2ed., 1890, p. 250)? I  would clearly say no, and no a thousand 
times!
>
>Did it only  imply this with reagard to physically present humans or did 
it also imply it  with regard deceased ones? I would clearly say both issues 
count, because  people not living in the physical are present in our  
universe!
>
>M. Sufilight
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