Theos-Talk Archives (January 2010 Message tt00089)

Dear Katinka and Martin,

That is precisely the point...what or who would Mrs Radha Burnier call a member in good standing? The way I have seen her function for 16 years as resident-member-worker (strictly in that order), the ones she calls members in good standing are those who are good for her ego, even if they are bad for the Movement...she encourages inefficiency and gossip and slander, all because the ones who do that also run to her calling her "Amma"...and run behind her willing to do anything -- whether right or wrong -- to please and satisfy her.

So the question I am asking is simply put this: Who or what is a good member of the TS? And when onwards has the Cause become secondary to the ego of the functionary head of the TS?

By the way, the rules of the TS define any member who has been paying regular fees and attending TS meetings as a member in good standing...or at least that is how I understand it...

And yes, Katinka, I have been at Adyar since 1994 till 2009, and am quite aware of the politics and ego games that go on in allowing anyone at all to reside at Adyar...

Fraternally

Preethi

--- On Sun, 24/1/10, Martin <Mvandertak@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Martin <Mvandertak@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Theos-World Adyar Convention Reporting
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, 24 January, 2010, 4:19 PM







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      Reminds me of an experience I had at "the Maitreya Institute" in Amsterdam:

The door was open so I went inside and had a look at all the statues and paintings of "buddha's". Must have taken me half an hour ( I also filmed some of the building inside ). Then a tibetan nun entered the meditation room, where I was making pictures, I looked at her and felt her heart, which truly was amazing. Then I observed her mind and there the trouble started. She looked at me a said, we are all about compassion. At the same time a monk appeared behind my back.who grabbed me around my body. I had another look at the nun, who I saw looking at a picture of a dark buddha. Here is what I did...I hit the monk on his head and told him never to attack me again and to the nun I said the same. But I didn't attack you, the nun said...yes you did I said: with your mind...she apologized and started to cry...

The monk was ok, I didn't hit him too hard, and I went out of the building...



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From: wagnerian1 <wagnerian1@yahoo. com>

To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com

Sent: Sun, January 24, 2010 7:34:20 AM

Subject: Re: Theos-World Adyar Convention Reporting



Mmmmkay.  Because you're doing all this world-shaking, complicated, delicate, high-stakes decision making at a Theosophy Convention.  Give me a break. 

Do Theosophy in your local group, and in your daily life, and if somebody wants to play secret club then by all means let them.  What exactly are you wanting to do at Convention that someone isn't letting you do?  How are they able to allow or disallow you do something?  Are there armed guards involved?  Shouting matches?  Cold shoulders?  Theosophists, Buddhists, etc. are all good at passive aggressive manipulation LOL  Maybe there needs to be a good shouting and cursing match to get everything out in the open so that Those you serve can help Work on it too.  Maybe words have lots of power, but the power isn't always obvious from the superficial meaning. 

Who wants to stay at some boring ol' Headquarters anyway?  Who wants to burden the Society with your upkeep, just because you "pay dues"?  Why does the Society owe anyone room and board?

I could go on and on..... 



--Clint



--- In theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com, Martin <Mvandertak@ ...> wrote:

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> " I guess it's to ensure that 'members of good standing' only get to attend. Which Radha obviously does not think you are.  "

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> Meaning she is discriminating on "caste" and in violence of the objectives of the TS...

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> From: Spirituality <mail@...>

> To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com

> Sent: Sat, January 23, 2010 4:10:15 PM

> Subject: Re: Theos-World Adyar Convention Reporting

> 

> Hi Preethi,

> 

> Actually, it's not a given that every TS member can automatically stay at the Adyar Centre. For international members there's a lot of bureaucratic hassle to be able to stay there. People don't just have to prove they are members, they have to have the explicit approval of their national section to be able to stay over. 

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> At least, that was the procedure for Dutch members when I went to Adyar ten years ago. 

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> I guess it's to ensure that 'members of good standing' only get to attend. Which Radha obviously does not think you are. 

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> Just because we pay a bit for its upkeep, does not mean it's a hotel at which every member automatically has admittance. 

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> Katinka Hesselink



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