Re: Theos-World Adyar Convention Reporting
Jan 26, 2010 04:58 AM
by preethi muthiah
Dear Morten,
One of the problems is that if these incidents were documented, they would have been right; for there is a billing system for every meal taken from Leadbeater Chambers by any resident and/or member or non-member who eats at LBC.
These that I have quoted are not documented, and I have access to this information solely because I worked at LBC for two years from November 2006 to May 2009...
Fraternally
Preethi
--- On Mon, 25/1/10, Morten Nymann Olesen <global-theosophy@stofanet.dk> wrote:
From: Morten Nymann Olesen <global-theosophy@stofanet.dk>
Subject: Re: Theos-World Adyar Convention Reporting
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, 25 January, 2010, 9:48 PM
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Dear Preethi
My views are:
So the issue is, that none is allowed to "speak against" the President of TS Adyar?
That has nothing to do with theft as far as I am concerned.
And can the issues you call facts be actually proven and documented?
I find these questions to be important to answer.
If so I would like to look into it.
As far as I am concerned we cannot have a debate leading towards Universal Brotherhood where someone accuses another for bad moral, without any clear and well-documented evidence.
Can we?
But, maybe I have misunderstood you.
M. Sufilight
----- Original Message -----
From: preethi muthiah
To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 10:47 AM
Subject: Re: Theos-World Adyar Convention Reporting
Morten,
The issue here is not whether Mrs Burnier is administering the money of others (here members specifically) because she is elected to administer it.
The issue here is that those who misadminister at the Headquarters at Adyar are allowed to stay on campus solely because they are her yes-men and yes-women. The moment they speak against how she administers the Adyar headquarters or the TS, they are asked to leave the Estate. So what is such a PERSONAL President doing in the TS?
The Cause is beyond Mrs Radha Burnier. That is one of the first things we need to remind the President, because she identifies herself with the cause and forgets that the Cause is beyond herself.
Fraternally
Preethi
--- On Sun, 24/1/10, Morten Nymann Olesen <global-theosophy@ stofanet. dk> wrote:
From: Morten Nymann Olesen <global-theosophy@ stofanet. dk>
Subject: Re: Theos-World Adyar Convention Reporting
To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
Date: Sunday, 24 January, 2010, 9:13 PM
Is it "taking money from others"?
Or rather "administering money given by others" because one was elected to administrate them?
----- Original Message -----
From: Martin
To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 4:37 PM
Subject: Re: Theos-World Adyar Convention Reporting
Well if any money is raised to serve a common goal and as such spent on it, I see no crime...however when I see people live on taking money from others in disguise to serve a common goal, that is theft.
In old Pythagorean Society, only people not dependent on money, power or family were allowed in the circle of 100 to form a counsel to rule Greece by unanymous decision...
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From: Morten Nymann Olesen <global-theosophy@ stofanet. dk>
To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Sun, January 24, 2010 4:29:25 PM
Subject: Re: Theos-World Adyar Convention Reporting
Agreed.
Let us have som clear well-documented proof of this view given by you Preethi.
----- Original Message -----
From: MKR
To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 2:50 PM
Subject: Re: Theos-World Adyar Convention Reporting
I think your calling Radhaji a thief is crossing the line for any
theosophist. You owe an unconditional apology.
As a theosophist, I would never all another human being a thief.
The ball is now in your court.
MKR
On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 4:48 AM, preethi muthiah
<seeker_preethi@ yahoo.com>wrote:
>
>
> Dear MKR,
>
> I would just like to point out to you that I attended the Convention as
> every member's right to do so. The Administration at Adyar was definitely
> NOT doing me a favour.
>
> The issues I have brought up, by the way, are issues that the founders
> would themselves raise, had they been alive. Neither of our founders were in
> favour of corruption, and it did not matter to them at what level these were
> practised. Corruption is corruption and it is an evil that must be rooted
> out. It is indeed sad to see that it exists in the TS, the founders of which
> are insulted daily by the current administration at Adyar, who instead of
> rooting it out, endorse it all because it is practised by the relatives of
> the President.
>
> Also, Preethi was not allowed to stay on campus with her mother, Mrs Radha
> Muthiah, who still works at the TS, Adyar. And though Preethi was allowed to
> visit her mother, in the future, even that permission has been taken away.
>
> You must read the Mahatma's Letters carefully, MKR, and you will find out
> that with a spiritual aspirant, every bad deed wipes out all the good ones.
> So, even if you want to be proud of Mrs Burnier allowing a member of the TS
> like Preethi Muthiah to attend the Convention, which by the way was Preethi
> Muthiah's right, you cannot run away from the fact that since Mrs Burnier
> did not allow me to stay with my mother, so the deed you mentioned gets
> wiped out and the balance is tilted towards the misdeeds...heavily indeed.
>
> It is quite possible that Mrs Radha Burnier will now try to prevent Preethi
> from being a member of the TS...but that is her headache...not mine...My
> commitment to the Theosophical Cause remains unhindered, for I choose it to
> be so. She cannot own the Masters of the Wisdom nor the Wisdom Teachings.
> She cannot even actually own the Adyar Estate for it is not her property. If
> you will see the rules, you will realize that Adyar actually belongs to all
> the members of the TS, for out of our annual membership fee, a certain
> amount goes towards the upkeep and maintenance of the Adyar International
> Headquarters.
>
> In effect, MKR, Mrs Radha Burnier in addition to all her other misdeeds of
> corruption etc. is also today party to the crime of keeping a member of the
> TS from her right to enter and live on the international HQ of the TS,
> Adyar, for the maintenance and upkeep of which the member pays annually a
> certain fee. By that account, MKR, Mrs Burnier is a thief. I hope that is
> not a matter of pride with you.
>
> Fraternally
>
> Preethi
>
> --- On Sat, 23/1/10, MKR <mkr777@gmail. com <mkr777%40gmail. com>> wrote:
>
> From: MKR <mkr777@gmail. com <mkr777%40gmail. com>>
> Subject: Theos-World Adyar Convention Reporting
> To: "theos-talk" <theos-talk@ yahoogro ups.com<theos- talk% 40yahoogroups. com>
> >
> Date: Saturday, 23 January, 2010, 2:14 AM
>
>
>
>
> When I suggested before the convention, if some one attending the
> convention
>
> could report on the convention on Internet, I was thinking about a blog
> like
>
> reporting, which in a journalistic point, be entertaining and informative.
> I
>
> have seen in conventions, each day one or two page bulletin is issued
>
> covering the dayâs summary. It is very disappointing that in this day and
>
> age of computers and wifi, something that is easy to do was not done by any
>
> one. By the way, Chennai is a hub of many computer establishments and so
>
> there are ample wifi resources if anyone wanted to post anything on
>
> Internet. I do not know what is happening in various countries when they
>
> have their annual conventions.
>
> It is heartening to see Preethi was allowed to attend the convention, as a
>
> member, in spite of the various issues she had raised in the past and had
> to
>
> move out of the Adyar Estate. This speaks very highly of the Adyar
>
> administration and all of us should be proud of it. I doubt any other
>
> organization would have allowed her to attend a convention.
>
> MKR
>
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