Theos-Talk Archives (November 2009 Message tt00120)

Speaking generally, most of the hoaxers are american citizens. I have seen no european claims that the landing was faked.
Cheers
Cass


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>From: "Augoeides-222@comcast.net" <Augoeides-222@comcast.net>
>To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Fri, 6 November, 2009 9:03:03 AM
>Subject: Re: Theos-World Apollo 11
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>Cass, 
>I firmly disagree. so we can proceed by agreeing that we don't aggre with ech other in that regard. I have been here for over 10 years when have they attacked any other nation but the USA. Name some. lol. I was refering to the Authors of the hoax and cover-up conspiracy so called. 
>Regards, 
>John 
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>From: "Cass Silva" <silva_cass@yahoo. com> 
>To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com 
>Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2009 1:32:19 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
>Subject: Re: Theos-World Apollo 11 
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>No offence John, but it has nothing to do with hating the US 
>Cass 
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>>From: " Augoeides-222@ comcast.net " < Augoeides-222@ comcast.net > 
>>To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com 
>>Sent: Thu, 5 November, 2009 2:47:44 PM 
>>Subject: Re: Theos-World Apollo 11 
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>>Thanks, 
>>Excelent definitve reply much needed and displays the ignorance of the moon conspiracy enthusiasts. hating the USA is thier only joy in life lol.I quite enjoyed the online Biography of your friend and mentor. Can you ask him if he may have known Pavel Smutny another NASA Scientist who specialized in Orbital Trajectory and Celestial Communications? 
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>>Regards, 
>>John 
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>>From: "Thuan Do" <dothuan@sbcglobal. net> 
>>To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com 
>>Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2009 6:11:56 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
>>Subject: Re: Theos-World Apollo 11 
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>>HTML clipboard 
>> http://internet. ocii.com/ ~dpwozney/ apollo5.htm 
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>>There is considerable evidence that the Van Allen shields, which start at an 
>>altitude of between 250 miles to 750 miles, protect us from deadly solar and 
>>cosmic radiation. (Italics and bold in the below 
>>quotes are mine.) 
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>> http://www.clavius. org/envrad. html 
>>"The recent Fox TV 
>>show, which I saw, is an ingenious and entertaining assemblage of nonsense. The 
>>claim that radiation exposure during the Apollo missions would have been fatal 
>>to the astronauts is only one example of such nonsense." -- Dr. James Van 
>>Allen 
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>> http://www.bigmantr a.com/man_ on_moon/radiatio n.html 
>>Challenges and responses 
>>1. The astronauts could not have survived the trip because of exposure to 
>>radiation from the Van Allen radiation belt and galactic ambient radiation (see 
>>Radiation poisoning). Some hoax theorists have suggested that Starfish Prime 
>>(high altitude nuclear testing in 1962) was a failed attempt to disrupt the Van 
>>Allen belts. 
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>>The Moon is ten times higher than the Van Allen radiation belts. The 
>>spacecraft moved through the belts in just 30 minutes, and the astronauts 
>>were protected from the ionizing radiation by the metal hulls of the 
>>spacecraft. In addition, the orbital transfer trajectory from the Earth to 
>>the Moon through the belts was selected to minimize radiation exposure. Even 
>>Dr. James Van Allen, the discoverer of the Van Allen radiation belts, 
>>rebutted the claims that radiation levels were too dangerous for the Apollo 
>>missions. Dosimeters carried by the crews showed they received about the 
>>same cumulative dosage as a chest X-ray or about 1 milligray. Plait 
>>cited an average dose of less than 1 rem, which is equivalent to the ambient 
>>radiation received by living at sea level for three years. 
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>>The radiation is actually evidence that the astronauts went to the 
>>Moon. Thirty-three of the thirty-six Apollo astronauts involved in the nine 
>>Apollo missions to leave Earth orbit have early stage cataracts that have 
>>been shown to be caused by radiation exposure to cosmic rays during their 
>>trip. 
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>>2. Film in the cameras would have been fogged by this radiation. 
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>>The film was kept in metal containers that prevented radiation from 
>>fogging the film's emulsion. In addition, film carried by unmanned 
>>lunar probes such as the Lunar Orbiter and Luna 3 (which used on-board film 
>>development processes) was not fogged. 
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>>3. The Moon's surface during the daytime is so hot that camera film would 
>>have melted. 
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>>There is no atmosphere to efficiently couple lunar surface heat to 
>>devices such as cameras not in direct contact with it. In a vacuum, only 
>>radiation remains as a heat transfer mechanism. The physics of radiative 
>>heat transfer are thoroughly understood, and the proper use of passive 
>>optical coatings and paints was adequate to control the temperature of the 
>>film within the cameras; lunar module temperatures were controlled with 
>>similar coatings that gave it its gold color. Also, while the Moon's surface 
>>does get very hot at lunar noon, every Apollo landing was made shortly after 
>>lunar sunrise at the landing site. During the longer stays, the astronauts 
>>did notice increased cooling loads on their spacesuits as the sun continued 
>>to rise and the surface temperature increased, but the effect was easily 
>>countered by the passive and active cooling systems. 
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>>4. The Apollo 16 crew should not have survived a big solar flare firing out 
>>when they were on their way to the Moon. "They should have been fried." 
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>>No large solar flare occurred during the flight of Apollo 16. There 
>>were large solar flares in August 1972, after Apollo 16 returned to Earth 
>>and before the flight of Apollo 17. 
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>>--- On Wed, 11/4/09, Cass Silva < silva_cass@yahoo. com > wrote: 
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>>From: Cass Silva < silva_cass@yahoo. com > 
>>Subject: Re: Theos-World Apollo 11 
>>To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com 
>>Date: Wednesday, November 4, 2009, 4:22 PM 
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>>With respect, If the landing was faked, there would only have been a select few that would have been aware of it. No doubt calculations etc were a necessary back up. Could you ask him how NASA manoevured through the Van Allen Belt and why the spacecraft was not disintegrated by it? Also, according to NASA, there was an opening in the Van Allen Belt for exit and entry, and how the scientists were able to locate this? 
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>>>From: Thuan Do <dothuan@sbcglobal. net> 
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>>>To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com 
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>>>This doesn't come from government source but private source: I have a scientist friend: Dr. Nguyen X Vinh: In this picture he stood in front of a picture of "moon landing" in NASA, probably. 
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>>>He never told me that the moon landing was a fake! 
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>>>On the contrary, he has helped to calculate the optimal trajectory for the coming back of the space crafts . http://www.vannha. com/NXV/Condense d_Bio_NXVinh. htm 
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>>>His website: http://www.vannha. com/NXV/ was made by me .and this is his bio, in short: http://www.vannha. com/NXV/SlideSho w/page1.htm( click on each page of the slideshow to go to next page) 
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>>>--- On Tue, 11/3/09, Cass Silva <silva_cass@ yahoo. com> wrote: 
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>>>From: Cass Silva <silva_cass@ yahoo. com> 
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>>>Subject: Re: Theos-World Apollo 11 
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>>>Date: Tuesday, November 3, 2009, 2:51 PM 
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>>>I didn't take it personally John, but as regards the topic, I'm afraid the jury is still out for me. There have been so many coverups over the past 50 years that I hesitate to accept anything that comes from a government source. 
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>>>>Sorry i had no intention of calling you an idiot. But anyway just becuase someone wrote a book titled "Stairway to heaven " doesn't mean there is one they used to carry all the stufrf 200 miles up lol. 
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>>>>John 
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>>>>From: "Cass Silva" <silva_cass@ yahoo. com> 
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>>>>My idiot self! lol 
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>>>>>What idiot told you that ? lol 
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>>>>>From: "Cass Silva" <silva_cass@ yahoo. com> 
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>>>>>All this could have happened from 200 miles from earth's surface 
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>>>>>>Sent: Thu, 29 October, 2009 6:02:36 PM 
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>>>>>>Exactly correct. Not only the Laser reflection target, but also the remaining "Lander" platform that was left when they rocketed back up to reconnect with the "Lunar Orbiter" which they used to return to Earth orbit and then disconnect from it and splash down in the ocean to be retrieved which was totally documented. Recently India took photos of the remaining "Lander Platform" using their new Lunar Mission Research Satellite. And others besides India like Japan have also shown proofs. Some people simnply love lies better than truths it seems. The Laser Reflection is still in use today to instruct students. 
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>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 9:41:03 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
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>>>>>>The reflectors they left on the moon to measure the distance by bouncing laser beams are still there and they did not get put there by the space brothers. 
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>>>>>>From: Cass Silva < silva_cass@yahoo. com > 
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>>>>>>(From Apollo 11) Leaked (Fake) Moon Landing Video 
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>>>>>>Steve's Note: The Apollo missions to the Moon evidently never happened. This video will help open the eyes of those that doubt this. 
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