Theos-Talk Archives (August 2009 Message tt00031)

Jason, the question was not addressed to you.

I have never seen any published information anywhere, unless someone else
such who spread the news or rumor has seen one. Issues such as this, even
rumors, cannot be kept under wrap; it will come out. I hope the statement
made by Betty is not an implication somehow the 1980 election was not
kosher.

MKR

visit.theosophy.net




On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 6:20 PM, jasonsriram <jasonsriram@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>
> I have no acces to information published...Nor any personal correspondance
> between us. This was simply a conversation that I vagely recall that
> happened many years ago.
>
> Sorry not to have any more information than that.
>
> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com>, MKR
> <mkr777@...> wrote:
> >
> > Is there any published account about Rukmini's concern about the
> direction
> > and evolution of the TS? If there is, can it be posted here. It would
> help
> > everyone to really understand what her thinking was.
> >
> > MKR
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 1:18 AM, preethi muthiah <seeker_preethi@
> ...>wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Jason,
> > >
> > > If Rukmini Devi had confidence in the President, why was she so
> concerned
> > > with the direction and evolution of the TS?
> > >
> > > Preethi
> > >
> > >
> > > --- On Mon, 3/8/09, MKR <mkr777@... <mkr777%40gmail.com>> wrote:
> > >
> > > From: MKR <mkr777@... <mkr777%40gmail.com>>
> > > Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: Betty Bland's Statement on 1980 Election
> > > To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com><theos-talk%
> 40yahoogroups.com>
>
> > > Date: Monday, 3 August, 2009, 7:19 PM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On serious issues of this nature, even if there were casual comments or
> > > even
> > >
> > > innuendos of mischief, truth comes out very quickly. People talk all
> the
> > >
> > > time and it is impossible to keep wrong doings under wrap, especially
> in
> > >
> > > India.
> > >
> > > .
> > >
> > > In the absence of factual and verifiable information, members are
> > >
> > > intelligent enough to come to their own conclusions based on the
> source(s)
> > >
> > > from which the comments come from.
> > >
> > > .
> > >
> > > MKR
> > >
> > > On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 7:54 AM, jasonsriram <jasonsriram@ yahoo.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Yes. Unfortunately Rukmini died in 1986 so we may never know the
> truth to
> > >
> > > > the 1980 allegations cited herein. I can only repeat what I remember
> from
> > >
> > > > meeting her in 1981. She was not bitter in any way. I think, as
> pointed
> > > out
> > >
> > > > earlier in the thread, she was most concerned about the direction and
> > >
> > > > evolution of the Society.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Healthy debate and democratic election are vital for the continuance
> of
> > > any
> > >
> > > > society. I do think the one question I have regarding this is if we
> are
> > >
> > > > promoting universal brotherhood, it should mean we are permeating
> > > divisions
> > >
> > > > of nationality, based soley on the universal principal of equality.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Therefore rather than devalue one section because more of our members
> > > come
> > >
> > > > from that place, we should be working to entice more people to use
> our
> > >
> > > > society to seek their own paths from many other places.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Jason
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com <theos-talk% 40yahoogroups. com>,
> > > Cass
> > >
> > > > Silva <silva_cass@ ...> wrote:
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > ah...unfortunately by the time truth reveals itself it no longer
> > > applies
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > Cass
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > >
> > > > > >From: MKR <mkr777@>
> > >
> > > > > >To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com <theos-talk% 40yahoogroups. com>
> > >
> > > > > >Sent: Sunday, 2 August, 2009 2:12:17 AM
> > >
> > > > > >Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: Betty Bland's Statement on 1980
> Election
> > >
> > > > > >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > >
> > > > > >Truth ultimately triumphs. When truth comes out, let the chips
> fall
> > >
> > > > where
> > >
> > > > > >they may.
> > >
> > > > > >
> > >
> > > > > >MKR
> > >
> > > > > >
> > >
> > > > > >visit www.theosophy. net
> > >
> > > > > >
> > >
> > > > > >On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 1:40 AM, preethi muthiah <seeker_preethi@
> > >
> > > > yahoo.com>wrote:
> > >
> > > > > >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> And why should anyone give you the facts, MKR. When the facts
> are
> > >
> > > > given,
> > >
> > > > > >> you will turn around and doubt the integrity , emotional
> stability
> > > and
> > >
> > > > > >> sanity of the truth-bearer. So then you only deserve lies,
> > > dishonesty,
> > >
> > > > > >> comfortable rumours and gossip. You don't deserve the truth.
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> Preethi
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> --- On Fri, 31/7/09, MKR <mkr777@gmail. com <mkr777%40gmail.
> com>>
> > >
> > > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> From: MKR <mkr777@gmail. com <mkr777%40gmail. com>>
> > >
> > > > > >> Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: Betty Bland's Statement on 1980
> > > Election
> > >
> > > > > >> To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com <theos-talk% 40yahoogroups.
> com>
> > >
> > > > > >> Date: Friday, 31 July, 2009, 6:06 PM
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> The comment about the 1980 election coming from the National
> > > President
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> (General Secretary) of the American Section is very important
> for
> > >
> > > > members
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> world-wide. It is all the more so because I have never heard of
> even
> > >
> > > > any
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> rumors from anyone in all these years. If there are any facts
> > >
> > > > > >> substantiating
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> the comments, it is but fair that everyone is informed.
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> As I have stated many times before, I am just an ordinary member
> of
> > > TS
> > >
> > > > in
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> America and everything I bring up is on my own initiative.
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> MKR
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> Visit www.theosophy. net
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 5:29 AM, preethi muthiah
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> <seeker_preethi@ yahoo.com>wrote:
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > MKR,
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > This is just curiosity again, but why do I get the feeling
> that
> > > you
> > >
> > > > are
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > purposefully taking attention away from the scenario at Adyar
> > >
> > > > vis-a-vis
> > >
> > > > > >> the
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > corruption practised and endorsed by the President and her
> > > relatives
> > >
> > > > to
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > things that happened much earlier than these revelations?
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > Please do forgive me if I am wrong, but are you working for
> > > someone
> > >
> > > > at
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > Adyar who ensures that you talk against those who opposed the
> > >
> > > > President
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > during the recent elections, so that too much attention is NOT
> > >
> > > > focused on
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > the corrupt goings-on at Adyar?
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > I am just a curious member who observes certain things that
> the
> > >
> > > > > >> "messenger"
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > does...
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > Preethi
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > --- On Fri, 31/7/09, MKR <mkr777@gmail. com <mkr777%40gmail.
> > > com>>
> > >
> > > > > >> wrote:
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > From: MKR <mkr777@gmail. com <mkr777%40gmail. com>>
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > Subject: Theos-World Re: Betty Bland's Statement on 1980
> Election
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com <theos-talk% 40yahoogroups.
> com>
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > Date: Friday, 31 July, 2009, 7:46 AM
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > In a statement put out several weeks ago on a quaint website,
> > > Betty
> > >
> > > > > >> Bland,
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > National President of Theosophical Society in America stated:
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > +++For example, the international presidential contest in
> 1980,
> > > when
> > >
> > > > > >> Radha
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > Burnier won over Rukmini Devi, was also fraught with
> differences
> > > of
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > opinion.+++
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > No one has heard of any complaints regarding the 1980
> election,
> > >
> > > > either
> > >
> > > > > >> from
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > Rukmini or her supporters inside TS or outside TS (there are
> many
> > >
> > > > outside
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > TS
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > due to her long time involvement in the revival of Indian
> Dance
> > > and
> > >
> > > > her
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > activities for Animal Welfare in India).
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > So this was a great surprise to me and many members around the
> > > world
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > because
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > we have never heard of this even in the gossip grape vine.
> Elected
> > >
> > > > > >> General
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > Secretaries of National Sections hold important and
> prestigious
> > >
> > > > positions
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > in
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > TS. Normally members highly regard and trust them. So anything
> > > they
> > >
> > > > say
> > >
> > > > > >> or
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > put in writing is expected to be truthful and backed up with
> > >
> > > > verifiable
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > facts.
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > Having made the statement, is it unreasonable for dues paying
> > >
> > > > members to
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > expect details behind the statement. I wrote to Betty on June
> 3
> > >
> > > > inquiring
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > about it. To this day, there is no response.
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > When a theosophical leader heading the second largest TS
> section,
> > >
> > > > makes
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > such
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > statements, keeping silent only affects the opinion members
> have
> > > in
> > >
> > > > their
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > leader and in turn reflects on TS. Since the motto of TS is
> There
> > > is
> > >
> > > > no
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > religion higher than Truth, it also negatively affects the TS.
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > I hope we will hear from Betty soon. Continued silence cannot
> help
> > >
> > > > her or
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > TSA.
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > MKR
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > visit www.theosophy. net
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 6:31 PM, jasonsriram <jasonsriram@
> > >
> > > > yahoo.com>
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
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> > >
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> > >
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> > >
> > > > > >> > > MK
> > >
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> > >
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> > >
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> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > > Maybe it is just a case of "see it happened before".
> However, I
> > >
> > > > agree
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > with
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > > your assessment that there was no case of claims of either
> > >
> > > > > >> electioneering
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > or
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > > false or misleading statements from either party as I recall
> in
> > >
> > > > 1980..
> > >
> > > > > >> In
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > > fact I was in Adyar in 1980 and have no recollection of
> rancour
> > > or
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > ongoing
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > > spatting as is occurring now.
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
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> > >
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> > >
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> > >
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> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > > In 1976 she (Rukmini) was nominated to be President of
> India, a
> > >
> > > > post
> > >
> > > > > >> she
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > > declined. I spoke with her in 1981 about it and she stated
> she
> > >
> > > > declined
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > > because she had "no interest in political life". So I really
> > > doubt
> > >
> > > > that
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > it
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > > was anything other that an unwanted result from a post she
> felt
> > >
> > > > she was
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > > qualified for.
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
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> > >
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> > >
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> > >
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> > >
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> > >
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> > >
> > > > > >> > > If Betty can disclose more on the source of her information
> I
> > >
> > > > would be
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > very
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > > interested to know more on this.
> > >
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> > > > > >> > > Jason
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> > >
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> > >
> > > > > >> > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com <theos-talk%
> 40yahoogroups..
> > >
> > > > com>,
> > >
> > > > > >> MKR
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
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> > >
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> > >
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> > >
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> > >
> > > > > >> > > <mkr777@> wrote:
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > > >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > > > Six weeks ago, Betty Bland, President (National Secretary)
> of
> > > TS
> > >
> > > > in
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > > America,
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > > > in a cyberspace write-up stated:
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > > > .
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > > > +++
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > > > Although no one is contesting the outcome of the 2008
> > >
> > > > presidential
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > > election,
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > > > the problem remains that the machinations of the
> international
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > elections
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > > are
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > > > unsound. For example, the international presidential
> contest
> > > in
> > >
> > > > 1980,
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > > when
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > > > Radha Burnier won over Rukmini Devi, was also fraught with
> > >
> > > > > >> differences
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > of
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > > > opinion.
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > > > +++
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > > > .
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > > > The comments coming from the National Head of TS in
> America,
> > > is
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > > surprising
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > > > and need elaboration so that members can clearly
> understand
> > > the
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > > statement.
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > > > .
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > > > Dictionary defines machinations as:
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > > > .
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > > > ** a scheming or crafty action or artful design intended
> to
> > >
> > > > > >> accomplish
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > > some
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > > > usually evil end
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > > > .
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > > > When anyone holding a high position in a spiritual
> > > organization
> > >
> > > > such
> > >
> > > > > >> as
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > > TS
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > > > makes such statements, I think members are owed an
> explanation
> > >
> > > > > >> backing
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > up
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > > > the statement.
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > > > .
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > > > The second comment about the 1980 election, is even more
> > >
> > > > interesting.
> > >
> > > > > >> .
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > I
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > > have
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > > > never seen any allegation from Rukmini Devi or her
> supporters
> > >
> > > > inside
> > >
> > > > > >> TS
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > > or
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > > > outside TS about anything questionable about the 1980
> > > election.
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > > > RukminiDevi, whose husband George
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > > > Arundale was President succeeding Annie Besant, is very
> widely
> > >
> > > > known
> > >
> > > > > >> in
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > > > India and around the world due to her long active
> involvement
> > > in
> > >
> > > > TS
> > >
> > > > > >> and
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > > her
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > > > other outside activities. If there was any problem
> whatsoever
> > >
> > > > with
> > >
> > > > > >> the
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > > 1980
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > > > election, we would have heard them loud and clear soon
> after
> > > the
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > > election. I
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > > > have not heard of any allegation or complaint. I do not
> know
> > >
> > > > what
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > > > information Betty Bland is privy to that ordinary members
> > > around
> > >
> > > > the
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > > world
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > > > are ignorant of. When such public statements are made, it
> is
> > > not
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > > > unreasonable for members ask for substantiation.
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > > > .
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > > > Several weeks ago, I wrote an open letter to Betty
> requesting
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > > clarification.
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > > > We have not heard anything so far.
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > > > .
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > > > The above situation does not help anyone. Already, level
> of
> > >
> > > > trust
> > >
> > > > > >> many
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > > > members have in the TS leaders is very low. This was the
> > > result
> > >
> > > > of
> > >
> > > > > >> the
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > > > election campaign and post election ultra secret attempt
> by
> > >
> > > > general
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > > council
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > > > members to disenfranchise members world-wide and seize the
> > > power
> > >
> > > > to
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > > appoint
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > > > the president.
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > > > .
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > > > I hope soon we will get some response substantiating the
> above
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
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> > >
> > > > > >> > > statements.
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> > > > Due to the nature of the statements, by keeping silent,
> the
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> > > > questions
> > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > >
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> > >
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> > >
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> > >
> > > > > >> > > > MKR
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> > > > > >> > > > Visit www.theosophy. net
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