Theos-Talk Archives (July 2009 Message tt00213)

ah ha - you just demoted yourself as Arch Heretic!!!

Cass

ps Stalin would have had a meagre lunch on Gandhi - but I think you are glossing over what he accomplished - he brought down the British colonisation of the world, starting with India, the jewel in their crown.

Cass


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>From: "Drpsionic@aol.com" <Drpsionic@aol.com>
>To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Saturday, 11 July, 2009 4:40:09 PM
>Subject: Re: Theos-World Barking up the wrong tree, as usual
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>Hmmm, let's see. Ghandi never faced a real opponent, Stalin would have 
>had him for lunch and Mother Theresa was a ghoul who fed off the energies of 
>the dying. I don't know what they were teaching but it ain't anything I 
>would want to learn.
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>I'm saying we need to get away from the notion of teachers as identifiable 
>agents altogether.
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>Chuck the Heretic
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>In a message dated 7/10/2009 10:22:19 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
>silva_cass@yahoo. com writes:
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>So you are saying that World Teachers are known by their actions rather 
>than their words? If this is the case one could argue that Gandhi and Mother 
>Theresa were world teachers.
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>I suppose one can walk with world teachers or one can walk behind them. 
>A spiritual evolved soul is probably on the way to being his/her own world 
>teacher.
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>Cass
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>>From: "_Drpsionic@aol. Drp_ (mailto:Drpsionic@aol. com) " 
><_Drpsionic@aol. Drp_ (mailto:Drpsionic@aol. com) >
>>To: _theos-talk@ yahoogrotheos- t_ (mailto:theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com) 
>>Sent: Friday, 10 July, 2009 2:48:56 PM
>>Subject: Theos-World Barking up the wrong tree, as usual
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>>Ok. The World Teacher thing is fun but the truth is that Theosophist have 
>>been flying the wrong carpet on it since the idea floated out of Annie 
>and 
>>the Bishop's hats. 
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>>First, there really has never been an identifiable person who could be 
>>considered a "World Teacher" who had any serious impact in his lifetime. 
>The 
>>Buddha was just another local nutcase and Jesus got himself killed. So 
>>this business about finding out who the next "World Teacher" was going to 
>be 
>>makes about as much sense as trying to find out who will be the next 
>Michael 
>>Jackson (in the hope of aborting him before he can appear) and all the 
>fuss 
>>over whether it was Krishnamurti or Aleister Crowley or even L. Ron 
>>Hubbard is missing the point.
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>>We can ignore crooks like Sai Baba Booey and crazy old Ben Creme for the 
>>moment.
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>>If there were to be a world teacher, that individual would not have to 
>>appear in public at all. He could be totally obscure, sitting in his 
>living 
>>room, watching reruns of old game shows on cable, an putting the 
>information 
>>directly into the minds of the people prepared to receive it without them 
>>even knowing that he exists or that the information, the ideas as it 
>were, 
>>came from any source other than their own minds. The techniques are 
>>certainly simple enough. Anyone can master them in a few days. Which is 
>why the 
>>dugpa stuff is so silly. There is nothing they can do that anyone else 
>>cannot do and probably are.
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>>It is obvious that the idea of a World Teacher, wandering the earth 
>>spreading teaching to the hungry masses is a simple failure to understand 
>how 
>>information can be spread. It is from a mindset locked into archaic and 
>>fundamentally clumsy means of communication, voice, the written word, 
>personal 
>>appearance, even video. There is no need for any of that and one wonders 
>>why those called masters of the wisdom, who frankly do not, in 
>retrospect, 
>>seem to have been masters of much of anything but falling off their 
>flying 
>>carpets, would not have realized that. 
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>>The search is a waste of time and energy. If there really is a world 
>>teacher running around loose somewhere, he has no need to be found, no 
>desire to 
>>be public. That would just get in the way and be a distraction.
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>>It is time to face reality and forget all the nonsense that has been 
>>written in the past by people who either did not know what they were 
>talking 
>>about or who had a vested interest in public ignorance.
>>
>>Chuck the heretic
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