Re: Theos-World Roman Catholic Church on New Age/Theosophy
Jul 09, 2009 10:47 AM
by Drpsionic
Oh, we don't have time for that sort of nonsense.
Chuck the Heretic
In a message dated 7/9/2009 10:51:31 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
Mvandertak@yahoo.com writes:
Die Welle ( The Wave ), a story about dictatorship: Chuck , who would you
say to be head of policestate Earth first? George Bushington the 2d?
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Subject: Re: Theos-World Roman Catholic Church on New Age/Theosophy
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Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 4:31 PM
Oh, we have not gotten to the well yet.
Chuck the Heretic
In a message dated 7/9/2009 3:14:02 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
_Mvandertak@yahoo.Mva_ (mailto:Mvandertak@yahoo.com) writes:
Chuck is diving deep now, guys:)
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Subject: Re: Theos-World Roman Catholic Church on New Age/Theosophy
To: _theos-talk@To: _theos-talTo: _theos-_theos-talk@yahoogrotheos-t_
(mailto:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com) )
Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 6:38 AM
There were no earthlings or martians. It is all an illusion of Maya.
Chuck the heretic
In a message dated 7/8/2009 11:02:06 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
__silva_cass@_silva_ca_ (mailto:_silva_cass@yahoo.sil) _
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I thought earthlings preceded martians? Although I am very hazy on
this
subject - read years ago that in the next manvantara humans evolve to
Venetians, martians evolve to earthlings and that earth is in the middle
between mars and venus?
Cass
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>Subject: Re: Theos-World Roman Catholic Church on New Age/Theosophy
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>Cass, Morten,
>I seem to recall that Blavatsky made mention of a small residual of
Intelligences remained upon Mars from the Original species that had been
there
and moved on due to the Mars Globe cycle.
>
>John
>
>---- Original Message -----
>From: "Cass Silva" <silva_cass@silva_cass>
>To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
>Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2009 7:08:44 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
>Subject: Re: Theos-World Roman Catholic Church on New Age/Theosophy
>
>Do aliens live on Mars - no - Martians live on Mars, and probably like
us
enjoy the location, especially if they live by a hot spring. lol They
would need anti-freeze should they wish to holiday on earth!
>
>Cass
>
>>
>>From: Morten Nymann Olesen < global-theosophy@ stofanet. dk >
>>To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
>>Sent: Thursday, 9 July, 2009 2:21:54 AM
>>Subject: Re: Theos-World Roman Catholic Church on New Age/Theosophy
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Interesting.
>>Some of them must, as I see it, be considered to have been created by
ordinary humans, because their creation are imprecise and angles
incorrect or
non-symmetrical, where they aught to be so.
>>
>>I did however like the Jelly-Fish at the bottom.
>>
>>I remineded me of the following from H. P. Blavatsky:
>>"We speak of the inhabitants of other planets and imagine that if they
are men, i. e., thinking entities, they must be as we are. The fancy of
poets and painters and sculptors never fails to represent even the angels
as a
beautiful copy of manâ plus wings. We say that all this is an error and a
delusion; because, if on this little earth alone one finds such a
diversity
in its flora, fauna and mankind âfrom the sea-weed to the cedar of
Lebanon,
from the jelly-fish to the elephant, from the Bushman and negro to the
Apollo Belvedereâalter the conditions cosmic and planetary, and there
must be
as a result quite a different flora, fauna and mankind. The same laws
will
fashion quite a different set of things and beings even on this our
plane,
including in it all our planets. How much more different then must be
external nature in other Solar systems, and how foolish is it to judge
of
other
stars and worlds and human beings by our own, as physical
>science does! "
>>
>>Did someone say that Aliens live on Mars?
>>
>>M. Sufilight
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: Augoeides-222@ comcast.net
>>To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
>>Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 7:55 PM
>>Subject: Re: Theos-World Roman Catholic Church on New Age/Theosophy
>>
>>Morten,
>>Here is a link for the latest Crop Circles which have a scientific
message some alledge:
>>
>>>>> ___http://www.earthfilht_ (http://www.earthfilh_/)
(_http://www.earthfilht_ (http://www.earthfil_/) )
(__http://www.earthfilht_ (http://www.earthfilh_/) (_http://www.earthfilh_
(http://www.earthfil/) ) ) es.com/news.
php?ID=1578& category= Environment< <<
>>
>>And because the message is about the Sun's activity here are the Solar
Observatory SOHO links:
>>
>>The Solar and Heliospheric Home Page (SOHO)
>>
>>>>> ___http://sohowww.ht_ (http://sohowww.h_/) (_http://sohowww.ht_
(http://sohowww._/) ) (__http://sohowww.ht_ (http://sohowww.h_/)
(_http://sohowww.h_ (http://sohowww./) ) ) nascom.nasa. gov/home.
html<<<
>>
>>The Latest SOHO Images
>>
>>>>> ___http://sohowww.ht_ (http://sohowww.h_/) (_http://sohowww.ht_
(http://sohowww._/) ) (__http://sohowww.ht_ (http://sohowww.h_/)
(_http://sohowww.h_ (http://sohowww./) ) ) nascom.nasa. gov/data/
realtime- images.html< <<
>>
>>John
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Morten Nymann Olesen" <global-theosophy@ stofanet. dk>
>>To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
>>Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2009 9:21:39 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
>>Subject: Re: Theos-World Roman Catholic Church on New Age/Theosophy
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>>Yes. The links says the following:
>>"19th century esotericism is seen by some as completely secularised.
Alchemy, magic, astrology and other elements of traditional esotericism
had
been thoroughly integrated with aspects of modern culture, including
the
search for causal laws, evolutionism, psychology and the study of
religions. It
reached its clearest form in the ideas of Helena Blavatsky, a Russian
medium who founded the Theosophical Society with Henry Olcott in New
York
in
1875. The Society aimed to fuse elements of Eastern and Western
traditions in
an evolutionary type of spiritualism. It had three main aims:
>>1. "To form a nucleus of the Universal Brotherhood of Humanity,
without
distinction of race, creed, caste or colour.
>>2. "To encourage the study of comparative religion, philosophy and
science.
>>3. "To investigate unexplained laws of Nature and the powers latent in
man."
>>
>>- - -
>>
>>Someone might want to throw an e-mail to the Vatican telling them,
that
the above is not entirely true.
>>
>>The three main aims as they were formulated in the Constitutions just
before H. P. Blavatsky died was:
>>
>>"The objects of the Theosophical Society are: First. - To form the
nucleus of a Universal Brotherhood of Humanity, without distinction of
race,
creed, sex, caste or colour. Second. - To promote the study of Aryan and
other
Eastern literatures, religions, philosophies and sciences, and to
demonstrate their importance to Humanity. Third. - To investigate
unexplained laws
of Nature and the psychic powers latent in man. "
>>(The Theosophist - January 1891)
>>
>>- - -
>>
>>Further one aught to realize that the original aims when The
Theosophical Society was formed had the following somewhat different
words, which the
Vatican presumably dislikes and therefore omits in its official Internet
article:
>>
>>"The objects of the society are, to collect and diffuse a knowledge of
the laws which govern the universe."
>>...
>>"Preamble of the T.S.
>>
>>Dated October 30, 1875; reprinted in The Theosophical Forum, September
1947, pp. 515-18
>>The title of the Theosophical Society explains the objects and desires
of its founders: they seek "to obtain knowledge of the nature and
attributes
of the Supreme Power and of the higher spirits by the aid of physical
processes." In other words, they hope, that by going deeper than modern
science
has hitherto done, into the esoteric philosophies of ancient times, they
may be enabled to obtain, for themselves and other investigators, proof
of
the existence of an "Unseen Universe," the nature of its inhabitants, if
such there be, and the laws which govern them and their relations with
mankind.
>>
>>Whatever may be the private opinions of its members, the society has
no
dogmas to enforce, no creed to disseminate. It is formed neither as a
Spiritualistic schism, nor to serve as the foe or friend of any
sectarian
or
philosophic body. Its only axiom is the omnipotence of truth, its only
creed a
profession of unqualified devotion to its discovery and propagation. In
considering the qualifications of applicants for membership, it knows
neither
race, sex, color, country nor creed.
>>
>>That all the members of a society should acquire an equal degree of
knowledge within the same period of time is not to be expected.
Knowledge
is
always progressive, and proportional to natural capability and
susceptibility
to intellectual impression. Even the most intelligent and the most
perseveringly studious must labor in order to obtain or attain. To all,
however,
are alike indispensable, rectitude of principle and conduct, and love of
truth and wisdom. No student can win his diploma without undertaking a
long
course of study and proving a good character; and every handicraftsman
has to
serve his apprenticeship before he can be journeyman or master. So
theosophy, which claims to teach the vital points of science and art,
exacts from
its adepts an assiduity of purpose, a catholicity of mind, an unselfish
devotion, an unflinching courage and perseverance, and a purity of life
and
thought commensurate with the nature of their self-imposed task, before
>admitting them into the arcana of nature, and intrusting them with
powers
not shared by meaner souls.
>>
>>The founders of the Theosophical Society begin their work with a
solemn
conviction of its importance. They do not undervalue the difficulties,
intrinsic and extrinsic, of the task. Their work is that which the
Spiritualists have neglected, the Materialists have not attempted, and
the Theologians
have misunderstood and undervalued. Starting with a hope, rather than a
conviction, of the attainment of their desires, they are animated solely
by an
earnest purpose to learn the truth, wheresoever it may be found; and
esteem no obstacles so serious, no pains so great, as to excuse them for
relinquishing it.
>>
>>They look in vain to the Church for such evidence of immortality as
will
satisfy the exactions of a fearless reason; in vain to her opponents for
an explanation of the preterhuman experiences of mankind, from the
earliest
periods. The Spiritualists, who profess to be in constant relations with
the departed, are unable to agree upon a system of philosophy. Thus the
longing of the race for a practical demonstration of its future
existence
goes
unsatisfied; the laws of intercommunication between the visible and the
invisible worlds are not accurately defined; and the problem of the two
eternities which bound this life remains unsolved, despite a multitude of
churches
and academies." .......and more.......
>>
>> ___http://www.theosociht_ (http://www.theosocih_/)
(_http://www.theosociht_ (http://www.theosoci_/) ) (__http://www.theosociht_
(http://www.theosocih_/)
(_http://www.theosocih_ (http://www.theosoci/) ) ) ety.org/pasadena
/gfkforum/ ourdir.htm
>>
>>M. Sufilight says:
>>So the emphasis upon Aryan and Eastern literature aught not to be
rooted
out just because the Vatican and its useful puppets have the aim to
promote the idea.
>>
>>There is still today a great abyss between the Eastern doctrines on
wisdom and the western ones on dogmas and blind beliefs. And this we
will
have
to recognize. - Some have sought to build a bridge between them and
calling
such a teaching a Doctrine of the Heart. Others have tried to put their
own versions forward. But a search after Truth can, we claim, never be
based
on a blind belief where rest of reason is promoted and the possible
development of Wisdom is ignored. And the Wisdom Teachings operates
through groups
and organisations carrying various names and not only those who pride
themselves by the use of the name "theosophical" . And we will know them
on
their fruits, whether they promote fanatical views or promote an honest
search
after the truth without multicultural religiously- related bigotry.
>>
>>M. Sufilight
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: Anand
>>To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
>>Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 9:21 AM
>>Subject: Theos-World Roman Catholic Church on New Age/Theosophy
>>
>>I got this link just now.
>> ___http://www.vatican.ht_ (http://www.vatican.h_/)
(_http://www.vatican.ht_ (http://www.vatican._/) )
(__http://www.vatican.ht_ (http://www.vatican.h_/) (_http://www.vatican.h_
(http://www.vatican./) ) ) va/roman_
curia/pontifical _councils/ interelg/ documents/ rc_pc_interelg_
doc_20030203_ new-age_en.
html
>>Best
>>Anand Gholap
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