Theos-Talk Archives (July 2009 Message tt00130)

There were no earthlings or martians.  It is all an illusion of  Maya.
 
Chuck the heretic
 
 
In a message dated 7/8/2009 11:02:06 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
silva_cass@yahoo.com writes:

 
 


I thought earthlings preceded martians?    Although I am  very hazy on this 
subject - read years ago that in the next manvantara  humans evolve to 
Venetians, martians evolve to earthlings and that  earth is in the middle 
between mars and  venus?

Cass

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>To:  _theos-talk@yahoogrotheos-t_ (mailto:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com) 
>Sent:  Thursday, 9 July, 2009 1:30:10 PM
>Subject: Re: Theos-World Roman  Catholic Church on New  Age/Theosophy
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>Cass, Morten,  
>I seem to recall that Blavatsky made mention of a small residual of  
Intelligences remained upon Mars from the Original species that had been there  
and moved on due to the Mars Globe cycle. 
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>John  
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>---- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Cass Silva"  <silva_cass@silva_cass> 
>To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com  
>Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2009 7:08:44 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific  
>Subject: Re: Theos-World Roman Catholic Church on New Age/Theosophy  
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>Do aliens live on Mars - no - Martians live on Mars, and  probably like us 
enjoy the location, especially if they live by a hot spring.  lol They 
would need anti-freeze should they wish to holiday on earth!  
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>Cass 
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>>From: Morten Nymann  Olesen < global-theosophy@ stofanet. dk > 
>>To:  theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com 
>>Sent: Thursday, 9 July, 2009 2:21:54  AM 
>>Subject: Re: Theos-World Roman Catholic Church on New  Age/Theosophy 
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>>Interesting. 
>>Some of them must, as I see it, be  considered to have been created by 
ordinary humans, because their creation are  imprecise and angles incorrect or 
non-symmetrical, where they aught to be so.  
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>>I did however like the Jelly-Fish at the bottom.  
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>>I remineded me of the following from H. P. Blavatsky:  
>>"We speak of the inhabitants of other planets and imagine that if  they 
are men, i. e., thinking entities, they must be as we are. The fancy of  
poets and painters and sculptors never fails to represent even the angels as a  
beautiful copy of manâ plus wings. We say that all this is an error and a  
delusion; because, if on this little earth alone one finds such a diversity 
in  its flora, fauna and mankind âfrom the sea-weed to the cedar of Lebanon, 
from  the jelly-fish to the elephant, from the Bushman and negro to the 
Apollo  Belvedereâalter the conditions cosmic and planetary, and there must be 
as a  result quite a different flora, fauna and mankind. The same laws will 
fashion  quite a different set of things and beings even on this our plane, 
including  in it all our planets. How much more different then must be 
external nature in  other Solar systems, and how foolish is it to judge of other 
stars and worlds  and human beings by our own, as physical 
>science does! " 
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>>Did someone say that Aliens live on Mars? 
>>  
>>M. Sufilight 
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>>----- Original Message -----  
>>From: Augoeides-222@ comcast.net 
>>To:  theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com 
>>Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 7:55 PM  
>>Subject: Re: Theos-World Roman Catholic Church on New  Age/Theosophy 
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>>Morten, 
>>Here is a link for  the latest Crop Circles which have a scientific 
message some alledge:  
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>>>>> _http://www.earthfil_ (http://www.earthfil/)  es.com/news.  
php?ID=1578& category= Environment< << 
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>>And because the message is about the Sun's activity here are the  Solar 
Observatory SOHO links: 
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>>The Solar and  Heliospheric Home Page (SOHO) 
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>>>>> _http://sohowww._ (http://sohowww./)   nascom.nasa. gov/home. html<<< 
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>>The Latest  SOHO Images 
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>>>>> _http://sohowww._ (http://sohowww./)  nascom.nasa. gov/data/ 
realtime-  images.html< << 
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>>John 
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>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>From: "Morten Nymann  Olesen" <global-theosophy@ stofanet. dk> 
>>To:  theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com 
>>Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2009 9:21:39 AM  GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
>>Subject: Re: Theos-World Roman  Catholic Church on New Age/Theosophy 
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>>Yes. The links  says the following: 
>>"19th century esotericism is seen by some as  completely secularised. 
Alchemy, magic, astrology and other elements of  traditional esotericism had 
been thoroughly integrated with aspects of modern  culture, including the 
search for causal laws, evolutionism, psychology and  the study of religions. It 
reached its clearest form in the ideas of Helena  Blavatsky, a Russian 
medium who founded the Theosophical Society with Henry  Olcott in New York in 
1875. The Society aimed to fuse elements of Eastern and  Western traditions in 
an evolutionary type of spiritualism. It had three main  aims: 
>>1. "To form a nucleus of the Universal Brotherhood of  Humanity, without 
distinction of race, creed, caste or colour. 
>>2.  "To encourage the study of comparative religion, philosophy and 
science.  
>>3. "To investigate unexplained laws of Nature and the powers  latent in 
man." 
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>>Someone might want to throw an e-mail to the Vatican telling them,  that 
the above is not entirely true. 
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>>The three main  aims as they were formulated in the Constitutions just 
before H. P. Blavatsky  died was: 
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>>"The objects of the Theosophical Society  are: First. - To form the 
nucleus of a Universal Brotherhood of Humanity,  without distinction of race, 
creed, sex, caste or colour. Second. - To promote  the study of Aryan and other 
Eastern literatures, religions, philosophies and  sciences, and to 
demonstrate their importance to Humanity. Third. - To  investigate unexplained laws 
of Nature and the psychic powers latent in man. "  
>>(The Theosophist - January 1891) 
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>>- - -  
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>>Further one aught to realize that the original aims  when The 
Theosophical Society was formed had the following somewhat different  words, which the 
Vatican presumably dislikes and therefore omits in its  official Internet 
article: 
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>>"The objects of the  society are, to collect and diffuse a knowledge of 
the laws which govern the  universe." 
>>... 
>>"Preamble of the T.S. 
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>>Dated October 30, 1875; reprinted in The Theosophical Forum,  September 
1947, pp. 515-18 
>>The title of the Theosophical Society  explains the objects and desires 
of its founders: they seek "to obtain  knowledge of the nature and attributes 
of the Supreme Power and of the higher  spirits by the aid of physical 
processes." In other words, they hope, that by  going deeper than modern science 
has hitherto done, into the esoteric  philosophies of ancient times, they 
may be enabled to obtain, for themselves  and other investigators, proof of 
the existence of an "Unseen Universe," the  nature of its inhabitants, if 
such there be, and the laws which govern them  and their relations with 
mankind. 
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>>Whatever may be the  private opinions of its members, the society has no 
dogmas to enforce, no  creed to disseminate. It is formed neither as a 
Spiritualistic schism, nor to  serve as the foe or friend of any sectarian or 
philosophic body. Its only  axiom is the omnipotence of truth, its only creed a 
profession of unqualified  devotion to its discovery and propagation. In 
considering the qualifications  of applicants for membership, it knows neither 
race, sex, color, country nor  creed. 
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>>That all the members of a society should  acquire an equal degree of 
knowledge within the same period of time is not to  be expected. Knowledge is 
always progressive, and proportional to natural  capability and susceptibility 
to intellectual impression. Even the most  intelligent and the most 
perseveringly studious must labor in order to obtain  or attain. To all, however, 
are alike indispensable, rectitude of principle  and conduct, and love of 
truth and wisdom. No student can win his diploma  without undertaking a long 
course of study and proving a good character; and  every handicraftsman has to 
serve his apprenticeship before he can be  journeyman or master. So 
theosophy, which claims to teach the vital points of  science and art, exacts from 
its adepts an assiduity of purpose, a catholicity  of mind, an unselfish 
devotion, an unflinching courage and perseverance, and a  purity of life and 
thought commensurate with the nature of their self-imposed  task, before 
>admitting them into the arcana of nature, and intrusting  them with powers 
not shared by meaner souls. 
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>>The  founders of the Theosophical Society begin their work with a solemn 
conviction  of its importance. They do not undervalue the difficulties, 
intrinsic and  extrinsic, of the task. Their work is that which the 
Spiritualists have  neglected, the Materialists have not attempted, and the Theologians 
have  misunderstood and undervalued. Starting with a hope, rather than a 
conviction,  of the attainment of their desires, they are animated solely by an 
earnest  purpose to learn the truth, wheresoever it may be found; and 
esteem no  obstacles so serious, no pains so great, as to excuse them for 
relinquishing  it. 
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>>They look in vain to the Church for such evidence  of immortality as will 
satisfy the exactions of a fearless reason; in vain to  her opponents for 
an explanation of the preterhuman experiences of mankind,  from the earliest 
periods. The Spiritualists, who profess to be in constant  relations with 
the departed, are unable to agree upon a system of philosophy.  Thus the 
longing of the race for a practical demonstration of its future  existence goes 
unsatisfied; the laws of intercommunication between the visible  and the 
invisible worlds are not accurately defined; and the problem of the  two 
eternities which bound this life remains unsolved, despite a multitude of  churches 
and academies." .......and more....... 
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>> _http://www.theosoci_ (http://www.theosoci/)   ety.org/pasadena 
/gfkforum/ ourdir.htm 
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>>M. Sufilight  says: 
>>So the emphasis upon Aryan and Eastern literature aught not  to be rooted 
out just because the Vatican and its useful puppets have the aim  to 
promote the idea. 
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>>There is still today a great  abyss between the Eastern doctrines on 
wisdom and the western ones on dogmas  and blind beliefs. And this we will have 
to recognize. - Some have sought to  build a bridge between them and calling 
such a teaching a Doctrine of the  Heart. Others have tried to put their 
own versions forward. But a search after  Truth can, we claim, never be based 
on a blind belief where rest of reason is  promoted and the possible 
development of Wisdom is ignored. And the Wisdom  Teachings operates through groups 
and organisations carrying various names and  not only those who pride 
themselves by the use of the name "theosophical" .  And we will know them on 
their fruits, whether they promote fanatical views or  promote an honest search 
after the truth without multicultural religiously-  related bigotry. 
>> 
>>M. Sufilight 
>>  
>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>From: Anand  
>>To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com 
>>Sent: Tuesday, July  07, 2009 9:21 AM 
>>Subject: Theos-World Roman Catholic Church on New  Age/Theosophy 
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>>I got this link just now. 
>>  _http://www.vatican._ (http://www.vatican./)  va/roman_ 
curia/pontifical  _councils/ interelg/ documents/ rc_pc_interelg_ doc_20030203_ new-age_en. 
html  
>>Best 
>>Anand Gholap 
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