Re: Theos-World Re: Cleansing of bad influences
Jun 24, 2009 06:23 AM
by preethi muthiah
Or perhaps she is regretting that she did not pay close attention to the warning given to her in 2001 by Life through the same Ms Preethi Muthiah who is currently publicly decrying the policies she uses to maintain her position, power and authority in the TS. The incident relates to one of the scenes described under some other topic of TheosTalk, where Ms Preethi was blamed for inserting a diacritical on a Sanskrit word and then Mrs Burnier additionally initiated gossip to that effect, which was cause for Preethi Muthiah to leave Adyar for a period of 3 years. What i did not mention there, but which i will mention here was that in those days, I idolized Mrs Burnier. She was my guide, my teacher, and i looked up to her for inspiration. But that incident changed the whole picture, because after putting up my papers in July 2001, I went to her house, Parsi Quarters to ask her why she could not have called me and clarified the issue rather than blaming and
gossiping. In answer to my query she said: "You are immature and reactive and I do not think I have to apologize to you". In response to this, my words to her were: " Radhaji, you cannot always get away with this. You did this to Naganathan Uncle. Now you are doing it to me. People will not always take this behaviour from you. We come to work for the TS and Adyar. This is not the way to treat us." To this her response was: "I have just been elected President for the fourth time. You can do nothing to me."
I am sure you can understand the shock that i went through for the President of the TS -- all of 78 years or whatever of age -- to tell me -- a 31 year old young woman -- these words.
In the past few months now i have often wondered what would have happened if she had paid heed to the warning Life gave her through me way back in 2001... So perhaps she is now scared to say anything at all...
Preethi
--- On Tue, 23/6/09, Cass Silva <silva_cass@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Cass Silva <silva_cass@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: Cleansing of bad influences
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 23 June, 2009, 6:43 AM
What is stopping her? She could clear this whole matter up with an explanation.
Cass
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>From: Anton Rozman <anton_rozman@ yahoo.com>
>To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
>Sent: Monday, 22 June, 2009 5:31:43 PM
>Subject: Theos-World Re: Cleansing of bad influences
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>Cass,
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>We are all missing the "word of the President", addressing this critical situation, proposing solutions, indicating the way out. Is not this silence possibly crying out that maybe she is not in a position to speak on her own any more?
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>Best regards,
>Anton
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>--- In theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com, Cass Silva <silva_cass@ ...> wrote:
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>> I don't hear any cries of helplessness coming from Ms Burnier unless of course she is hoping that the bad publicity will go away?
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>> Cass
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>> >From: Anton Rozman <anton_rozman@ ...>
>> >To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
>> >Sent: Sunday, 21 June, 2009 2:45:39 PM
>> >Subject: Re: Theos-World Cleansing of bad influences
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>> >Dear Cass,
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>> >Every patient wants to be cured. Resistance is just sign of deep helplessness and is actually cry for help. The only remedy is truth of facts which can be very painful, so that some would rather die than expose it. But in this situation we are all patients and we can cure ourselves only with mutual help and humility. No one is above the situation, no one is without guilt. We all allowed it to happen, some more and some less. We are all in the same boat.
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>> >Best regards,
>> >Anton
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>> >--- In theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com, Cass Silva <silva_cass@ ...> wrote:
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>> >> Anton, the patient must want to be cured before any healing can take place!
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>> >> >From: preethi muthiah <seeker_preethi@ ...>
>> >> >To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
>> >> >Sent: Saturday, 20 June, 2009 6:29:35 PM
>> >> >Subject: Re: Theos-World Cleansing of bad influences
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>> >> >If i could put it more appropriately cleansing is needed overall, but instead of harping on about the "secret disenfranchising attempt made by some of the General Secretaries -- which i understand was just a suggestion rather than a finalized move -- one needs to look at the reasons why this suggestion was even thought about". In treating a disease, one can either look at the symptoms or at the root cause.
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>> >> >If you start looking at the root cause of this whole problem you will, willy-nilly, trace it back to the ineffective leadership of the current international president (which she has been over the past 29 years), Mrs Radha Burnier and the policies she uses to "rule".
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>> >> >One will also notice, if one is perceptive, that the attempt from Mrs Burnier's lobbyists has always been to look at the symptoms and focus attention there, rather than to look at the root cause of this whole division in the TS.
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>> >> >One can then look at some of these things deeply and question them or ponder over them: (a) What is all this fear doing in an organization that has altruism as its ideal; (b) Why does the leader of this organization initiate gossip and why has she never thought about the deep-seated effects this kind of behaviour will generate among members; (c) One would expect the head of a spiritual organization to have insight into human nature. Why has this aspect of Mrs Burnier never found expression even though opportunities for this insight and resultant understanding were present throughout her career as president of the TS, including during the elections and its aftermath? and (d) since we are all supposed to be intelligent, thinking, rational individuals, why, even when the corruption rampant in Adyar is brought to everyone's attention, are we allowing Mrs Burnier to rule our hearts and minds?
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>> >> >Preethi
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>> >> >--- On Sat, 20/6/09, MKR <mkr777@gmail. com> wrote:
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>> >> >From: MKR <mkr777@gmail. com>
>> >> >Subject: Re: Theos-World Cleansing of bad influences
>> >> >To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
>> >> >Date: Saturday, 20 June, 2009, 1:16 AM
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>> >> >Cleansing is needed more urgently in the West, IMHO. Have we forgotten last
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>> >> >year's failed ultra secret attempt to disenfranchise all of us and handdful
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>> >> >of GC members seize power to "appoint" the president, thus make the
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>> >> >president a puppet in their hands?
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>> >> >MKR
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>> >> >Visit www.theosophy. net
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>> >> >On 6/16/09, preethi muthiah <seeker_preethi@ yahoo.com> wrote:
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>> >> >> Am glad we are looking into cleansing here. Cleansing is what the TS and
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>> >> >> especially its heart, Adyar, requires today...and it is we who need to do
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>> >> >> the cleansing... We members of the Theosophical Society. Would you like to
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>> >> >> Preethi
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>> >> >> --- On Mon, 15/6/09, Cass Silva <silva_cass@ yahoo. com<silva_cass% 40yahoo.com> >
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>> >> >> From: Cass Silva <silva_cass@ yahoo. com <silva_cass% 40yahoo.com> >
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>> >> >> To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com <theos-talk% 40yahoogroups. com>
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>> >> >> Date: Monday, 15 June, 2009, 7:06 AM
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