Theos-Talk Archives (June 2009 Message tt00497)

Dear Anand:
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I think that what we know of the election is just the tip of the iceberg and
we do not know all that went on behind the scenes. My hope is some day we
may have more complete information about who did what and when and why?
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I have been following closely all your msgs since the start of the election
and you have been fair and helpful. Atleast you are posting msgs under your
name and not under a pseudonym or thru a front. For those who falsely
misunderstood your stand in the election, I suggest they read all your
messages in the theos-talk archive. When you speak truth, you need not be
concerned since you know in your heart of hearts that what you say is true.
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All the discussions here started with the allegation about Radhaâs health -
and that too laymanâs opinions that was shot down by professional opinions.
The pity is that none of the leaders really foresaw the need to find and
develop young leaders. As I have stated several times, every upcoming and
growing organization are  always lead by young or middle aged persons and
not septuagenarians or octogenarians. My hope is that the electioneering and
subsequent end-run secret attempt to disenfranchise all of us and seize
control of appointment of the president, thus make the president a puppet is
a wake up call for everyone. This may not be the last such attempt.
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I also hope that those who have operated for years behind the scenes and
kept members in the dark about the happenings understand how transparency is
urgently needed to prevent unnecessary secrecy causing more serious
problems, keeping in mind Master KHâs warning in his 1900 letter. It is not
easy to get out of the secrecy mindset, especially if you have operated in
that environment for too long.
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Keep up the good work.
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MKR
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Visit www.thesophy.net and enjoy all the good stuff there.
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On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 3:10 AM, Anand <AnandGholap@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> Dear MKR,
> Transparency and such conditions greatly depend on the International
> President. As all offices like ES, masonry and TS Presidency are
> concentrated in Mrs. Burnier, she has considerable control over what happens
> in TS. Changes like transparency depend on her, to great extent. For many
> years no General Secretary dared to challenge or question Mrs. Burnier for
> the reasons Annie Besant mentioned and I elaborated further. It is only last
> year that John Algeo unexpectedly gave tough fight in Presidential election.
> Supporters of Mrs. Burnier won't like it. But such election actually is the
> sign that democracy exists to some extent. Suppose John Algeo had announced
> two years back that he would run for the Presient, would Mrs. Burnier
> appoint John as Vice-President? I don't think she would have. It appears
> that because he challenged her in Presidential election, he is not again
> selected for any office at international level.
>
> In this Presidential election I was neutral toward both the candidates.
> Somebody circulated wrong message that I supported John Algeo. That has made
> some officers in Adyar TS to go against me. I don't give a damn because they
> will be damned by karmic results of their own actions.
>
> Anand Gholap
>
> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com>, MKR
> <mkr777@...> wrote:
> >
> > How about Tsunami? Founders getting fed up with the bickering among
> > theosophists!
> > MKR
> >
> > On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 4:56 PM, <Drpsionic@...> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > I'm beginning to think we would all be better off if Adyar fell into
> the
> > > bay and the sharks, who are not vegetarians, could deal with the
> problem.
> > >
> > > Chuck the Heretic
> > >
> > >
> > > In a message dated 6/21/2009 11:44:34 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
> > > seeker_preethi@... <seeker_preethi%40yahoo.com> writes:
> > >
> > > Hi MKR,
> > >
> > > Not surprised, but only shall we say disappointed, because we are
> > > forgetting that the TS is meant to be a spiritual organization. Why
> speak
> > > such high
> > > philosophy when in the end one has to lead life in the same manner as
> > > those who do not speak it or have no knowledge of it? And why expect
> then
> > > that
> > > one must be treated any different when one behaves in a manner that is
> > > similar to the materialistic world around? Seems more like in the past
> few
> > > decades we have become more like the many religionists who hold on to
> empty
> > >
> > > words that don't translate into every day living. So then, perhaps, it
> is
> > > best
> > > to break the walls of Adyar and just continue to live with the world --
> > > which is not really bad at all -- as the world is. Why pretend to be
> one
> > > thing and then be something totally different?
> > >
> > > Just some thoughts.
> > >
> > > Preethi
> > >
> > > --- On Sun, 21/6/09, MKR <_mkr777@... <_mkr777%40gmail.mkr>_
> > > (mailto:mkr777@... <mkr777%40gmail.com>) >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > From: MKR <_mkr777@... <_mkr777%40gmail.mkr>_ (mailto:
> > > mkr777@... <mkr777%40gmail.com>) >
> > > Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: Adyar estate
> > > To: _theos-talk@yahoogrotheos-t_ (mailto:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com<theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com>
> <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com>)
> > >
> > > Date: Sunday, 21 June, 2009, 1:51 AM
> > >
> > > No one should be surprised. Did not one of the Masters stated that
> human
> > > nature is the same whether in Adyar or in London. This just proves it.
> (At
> > > least two people were not fighting or killing each other!)
> > > ..
> > > MKR
> > > ..
> > >
> > > On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 2:58 AM, preethi muthiah
> > > <seeker_preethi@ yahoo.com>wrote:
> > >
> > > > Last year in fact we had a general secretary forget her nuptial vows
> and
> > > > commit adultery in her marriage.
> > > >
> > > >
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