Re: Theos-World Was Alice Bailey "the New Torch-Bearer of Truth"?
May 24, 2009 09:52 AM
by Antonio/Tony None
Dear Leon,
I read your point in an earlier email and though you meant to copy and paste the topic into my email. I guess i wasnt very clear in my understanding of what you wrote. I am new to joing thread discussion so i would ask you to have a little pateince with please.
Am i correct in my interpretation of request by saying you would like me to copy and paste the section of a persons email that i am replying to, inside my own email?
please clarify i would be more than happy to implement :)
Peace and blessings
Antonio
--- On Fri, 22/5/09, Leon Maurer <leonmaurer@aol.com> wrote:
From: Leon Maurer <leonmaurer@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Theos-World Was Alice Bailey "the New Torch-Bearer of Truth"?
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, 22 May, 2009, 10:05 PM
Antonio,
Previous letters, once read, may have been deleted and forgotten.
So, how can any readers in an open forum understand what you are
talking about if you don't quote the e-mail you are responding to?
Just the subject line is not enough.
On May 22, 2009, at 5/22/094:35 AM, Antonio/Tony None wrote:
> Dear Morten,
>
> I am glad we can find resolutions amongst the chaos :)
>
> Peace and blessings
> Antonio
>
> --- On Fri, 22/5/09, Morten Nymann Olesen <global-
> theosophy@stofanet. dk> wrote:
>
> From: Morten Nymann Olesen <global-theosophy@ stofanet. dk>
> Subject: Re: Theos-World Was Alice Bailey "the New Torch-Bearer of
> Truth"?
> To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
> Date: Friday, 22 May, 2009, 8:08 AM
>
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> Thanks you for your answer.
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> I am happy to learn that you found my answer useful.
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> And your assumptions about miracles are part of the ones I use.
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> The e-mail can be read again from time to time if in need.
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> M. Sufilight
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>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Antonio/Tony None
>
> To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
>
> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 11:04 PM
>
> Subject: Re: Theos-World Was Alice Bailey "the New Torch-Bearer
> of Truth"?
>
>
>
> Hi Morten,
>
>
>
> Fair enough. I guess i can relate in that my album will be my
> calling card and as Sai babas trick did not come off so too might
> my album not come off. In this respect i can overstand your take on
> things. In saying this i still think someone enlightened would not
> consider the actions sai babe considerd and on this it may be
> better for us to agree to dissagree.
>
>
>
> Regarding the information you sent in this email.
>
>
>
> Firstly in my opinion what i percieve is ment by the first statment
> is that one must adapt to as a teacher to the level of learning of
> his pupil. Personally i feel there are more appropriate ways sai
> baba could have done this than stage magic.
>
>
>
> Yes it is a sensetive matter in that you must be extreamly careful
> how you administer your teachings as people will be more than happy
> to pick holes in the way you teach. On this occasion i think sai
> baba's actions are a perfect case in point.
>
>
>
> Regarding the second statment which i found quite interesting:
>
>
>
> Disorder is a human condition and until we are perfected human we
> will always need theraputic approaches in dealing with this. I
> think what is meant by this statement is not to confuse this with
> wisdom teaching and the esoteric in that the two should be
> seperated and the esoteric wisdoms should not be applied in dealing
> with ones chaos and dissorder of mind. Rather that the esoteric
> teachings should be delved into with the clearest of minds. if this
> simple rule is not followed i would agree that the teachings could
> be miscontrude and what goes into the machine will come out totally
> distorted.
>
>
>
> The last statment did not make sense in my opinion perhaps there
> are words missing?
>
> From what i can assume the statement is trying to bring to light
> the fact that miracles happen to enlightened masters and people
> percieveing this may or may not take hold of these happenings
> through the need to associate with something beyond the norm. But
> as i say this is very unclear to me. Perhaps a better break down
> would merit better insight on my part.
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>
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> Thank you for the link i will aim to have a look, time permitting.
>
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>
> Peace and blessings
>
> Antonio
>
>
>
> --- On Thu, 21/5/09, Morten Nymann Olesen <global-theosophy@
> stofanet. dk> wrote:
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> From: Morten Nymann Olesen <global-theosophy@ stofanet. dk>
>
> Subject: Re: Theos-World Was Alice Bailey "the New Torch-Bearer
> of Truth"?
>
> To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
>
> Date: Thursday, 21 May, 2009, 9:18 PM
>
>
>
> Allright.
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>
> I also do care.
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>
> Antionio wrote:
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> "Why he would wish to do this i dont know?"
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>
>
> I know that Sai Baba has said that his parapsychological activities
> are due to him using them as a "calling-card" - to get attention
> from people, so that they might be more open minded in listening to
> what he has to say to them.
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> Sai Baba's teachings are coinciding a whole lot with Adwaita
> Vedanta and Patanjali teachings.
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> ********
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>
>
> The following from Idries Shah's corpus might be helpful to consider:
>
>
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> "What is so perplexing to conditioned attitudes about Wisdom
> teachers is that, unlike teachers of other kinds, they refuse to
> stick to one kind of appearance. As an example, if you go to see a
> Wisdom Teacher, he/she may not look, talk or act like a mystical
> master at all. This is because he/she says either: 'You can teach
> only by the method indicated for each pupil, and you may have to
> teach by what seems to him/her unlikely'; or else because he/she
> says: 'There is a time and a place and certain company. According
> to these, we will teach. When it is time to be serious, we will be
> serious. When it is time to work through what looks like ordinary
> things, we have to do so.'
>
>
>
> So importan is this lesson that it can be said to go before all
> others: in the sense that failure to know this can prevent you from
> learning more - and can leave you attached to externals of
> hypocrites. This includes, of course, unconscious hypocrites.
>
>
>
> If the Masters are right in their claim that time affects
> behaviour, and that personal appearance should change (and even
> temperament) then obviously all the people who cultivate a reveend
> appearance, and all those who acquire it, mistaking this for
> spirituality, are wrong."
>
>
>
> ......
>
>
>
> "The genesis of the attitude adopted by the people of externals is
> that their invard drive is for finding tidiness, order. This is not
> a spiritual activity, it is perhaps, rather, a therapeutic one.
> Order is essential for disordered people. Looking for it as a major
> factor in 'esoteric' directions is the mistake.
>
>
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> In trying to make what - for them - is order out of what they
> imagine to be the disorder of Wisdom teachings, they have to over-
> simplify. They ignore parts of the teaching and succed only in
> creating an imitation of the Wisdom teachings of all ages.
>
>
>
> Because so many people desire order so strongly, you will find more
> imitations than reality. One cannot blame anyone for this. But
> pointing out facts can help."
>
>
>
> ......
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>
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> "Wisdom Masters who have reached stages where strange things happen
> in their vicinity, generally called miracles and wonders, due to
> actions OTHER than attempt to mpress, have to try to compensate for
> this. Otherwise people are attracted to them or to the Wisdom
> Teachers in general because of craving for wonders."
>
>
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> ---
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> Al-Khidr
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> Al-Khidr's behaviour in this link is also strange, but it might be
> able to explain the strange behaviour Sai Baba has from time to time.
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> http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Al-Khidr
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> Allright?
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>
> M. Sufilight
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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> From: Antonio/Tony None
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> To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
>
>
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> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 9:34 PM
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>
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> Subject: Re: Theos-World Was Alice Bailey "the New Torch-Bearer of
> Truth"?
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>
>
> Hi Morten,
>
>
>
> First let me say i never take sides. My opinions and thoughts are
> soley my own.
>
>
>
> The last intention i have is to cause disharmony amongst this group
> so please do not take any of my thoughts or opinions personally ,
> rather if you choose , reflect and form your own opinions.
>
>
>
> To address the point you made.
>
>
>
> It could be percieved that i have self contradicted, however my
> opinion regarding sai baba was formed without the knowledge you
> brought to my attention regarding BC's beliefs.
>
>
>
> If this is what BC beleives than that is his choice. You and I may
> beleive in the same philosophy or religion but our perceptions may
> vary. My point is that perhaps BC's views and beleifs are all
> correct and perhaps some are and some arent, none of us are perfect
> and our beleifs in turn are prone to contradictions. if this is
> what BC truly beleives it begs the questions of why Sai Baba would
> resort to materialisations and others kinds of parapsychological
> activities. Not to say this is right or wrong , what is wrong is
> when you have missplaced intentions. My only conclusion from what i
> saw on youtube was Sai baba's intention was to fool his followers
> and his trick went wrong and he was exposed. Why he would wish to
> do this i dont know? Perhaps the pressure of appearing to have
> extraordinary capabilities may be one reason or perhaps his intent
> was to wow his followers in turn increasing his reputation as the
> cosmic avatar. These are only assumption and
>
> at
>
>
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> the end of the day only Sai Baba knows his true intentions. My
> point was that a spiritually enlightened being would not even
> entertain the thought of conducting such an act. In my opinion a
> spiritually enlightened being would simply use words. Words are
> both weapons and healing tools and thus the true form of all magic.
> by these means and these means alone would a true avatar address
> humanity.
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> if you need me to elaborate further by all means let me know which
> points you would like me to address.
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> Peace and blessings
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> Antonio
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>
>
> --- On Thu, 21/5/09, Morten Nymann Olesen <global-theosophy@
> stofanet. dk> wrote:
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> From: Morten Nymann Olesen <global-theosophy@ stofanet. dk>
>
>
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> Subject: Re: Theos-World Was Alice Bailey "the New Torch-Bearer of
> Truth"?
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> To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
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> Date: Thursday, 21 May, 2009, 5:40 PM
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> Dear Antonio and friends
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> My views are:
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> Maybe it is just me, but are your statement not self-contradicting.
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> I ask:
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> How can you say that Benjamin Creme is allright when he says that
> Sai Baba is a Cosmic Avatar and higher than his own claimed
> Maitreya Avatar, - and then go on to say that Sai Baba is false and
> fake? You simply lost me there?
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> - - -
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> It would be helpful if you would document your views instead of
> almost saying that "belief" is more valid than actual knowledge.
>
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> Why is it wrong when Sai Baba makes what he calls materialisations
> and others kinds of parapsychological activities?
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> I mean to some persons reading or driving a car is pure magic, to
> others it is quite natural and is done out compassion. So what is
> the actual difference?
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>
> M. Sufilight
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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> From: Antonio/Tony None
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>
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> To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
>
>
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> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 5:51 PM
>
>
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> Subject: Re: Theos-World Was Alice Bailey "the New Torch-Bearer of
> Truth"?
>
>
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> As a response to this i saw a youtuube video of Sai Baba doing
> stage magic terribally badly. If you like i would be happy to post
> this but it may distort your opinion of him. In my opinion any
> spiritually enlightened master would simply not engage in something
> of this nature. Regarding BC and Sai Baba following the exact same
> paths i would have to dissagree. The same way you can have two
> people working for the same organisation , they are still both
> individuals and their beleifs, intentions and choices and actions
> will always differ to ceartian degrees. I have seen enough of BC to
> know he is noble in nature and wants a positive conclusion to the
> chaos in this world. Wether this is an extreamly good act or not i
> do not know but until i see otherwise i will not assume.
>
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> Peace and Blessings
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> Antonio
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>
>
> --- On Thu, 21/5/09, Morten Nymann Olesen <global-theosophy@
> stofanet. dk> wrote:
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>
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> From: Morten Nymann Olesen <global-theosophy@ stofanet. dk>
>
>
>
> Subject: Re: Theos-World Was Alice Bailey "the New Torch-Bearer of
> Truth"?
>
>
>
> To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
>
>
>
> Date: Thursday, 21 May, 2009, 8:29 AM
>
>
>
> Dear Cass and friends
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>
>
> My views are:
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>
>
> And you are of course able to document the view that Sai Baba are a
> fraud?
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>
>
> I suggest you read the words by Al Khidr taken from the not to-be-
> read-dead- letter Quran before answering.
>
>
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> Al Khidr (The Green Guide. The Master of the Masters.)
>
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> http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Al-Khidr
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> M. Sufilight
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
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> From: Cass Silva
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> To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
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>
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> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 3:35 AM
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>
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> Subject: Re: Theos-World Was Alice Bailey "the New Torch-Bearer of
> Truth"?
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>
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> Sai Baba and Crene are both frauds - Crene may be delusional but
> Sai Baba knows how to exploit for gain
>
>
>
> Cass
>
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>
> ____________ _________ _________ __
>
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>
> From: Morten Nymann Olesen <global-theosophy@ stofanet. dk>
>
>
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> To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
>
>
>
> Sent: Thursday, 21 May, 2009 8:08:22 AM
>
>
>
> Subject: Re: Theos-World Was Alice Bailey "the New Torch-Bearer of
> Truth"?
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> Dear friends
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> My views are:
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> On Share Internationals website we have the following:
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> "Maitreya and other well-known figures
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> This page sheds some light into the relationship between Maitreya
> and some well-known figures such as Sai Baba, the Buddha, Krishna
> and Krishnamurti. This information is excerpted from the books by
> Benjamin Creme."
>
>
>
> "Maitreya & Sai Baba
>
>
>
> Sri Sathy Sai BabaSai Baba is a teacher or guru in south India with
> an enormous following. Hundreds of thousands, perhaps one or two
> million people from all over the world would claim to be his
> devotees. These Followers see him as God, the creator of the
> universe. He is a cosmic avatar. Sai Baba and Maitreya both embody
> the same energy--what we call the Christ principle, the energy of
> Love --- Sai Baba at the cosmic level, Maitreya at the planetary
> level."
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>
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> http://www.share- international. org/maitreya/ Ma_others. htm
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>
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> So if one follows Cremes views, one might just the same or even
> better follow Sai Babas?
>
>
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> If so, why do we have to believe that there is more than one
> Avatar, when Sai Baba never mentions Cremes Maitreya Avatar?
>
>
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> So why indeed use the Great Invocation written by Alice A. Bailey
> so to accomplish her views given in the book named "The
> Externalization of the Hierarchy"?
>
>
>
> M. Sufilight
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
>
>
> From: Antonio/Tony None
>
>
>
> To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
>
>
>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 11:27 AM
>
>
>
> Subject: Re: Theos-World Was Alice Bailey "the New Torch-Bearer of
> Truth"?
>
>
>
> Dear Leon,
>
>
>
> Thanks for your response.(Theos- World Was Alice Bailey "the New
> Torch-Bearer of Truth"?)
>
>
>
> It would be very interesting from my perspective to know of these 4
> musicians. Are there any links i could look into please?
>
>
>
> I overstand your skepticsm and think it is valient. One should
> never accept any movement for total peace or total anarchy with
> blind faith but instead should evaluate the intricacies of that
> movement and make an intuitive decision as to wether or not its
> intentions are good or evil. In my case i am a total believer in
> love and peace and i am always considerate and compassionate when i
> see injustic in our world. My aim is simply to bring to light a
> philosophy or ideal which i feel will make the world a better place
> and yes we shall see how the labum impacts. I will post a link on
> this thread nearer the time of its release for all to listen to and
> digest and reflect and offer opinions on.
>
>
>
> Regarding BC, I am also of the beleif that he may be working for
> the very people who want to impose a globalist agenda of control on
> the world. Perhaps if he has to accept the possibilty of a truely
> benevolent Maitreya through pressures from humanity his individual
> beliefs or plans would not come to fruition but those of Maitreya
> will. Lets hope this is the case or that BC is himself benevolent
> and wishes for love and peace in a chaotic world.
>
>
>
> I am in agreement with you comment about christ consciousness and
> self realisation. I beleive that each of us have the ability to
> become gods. When i say gods i mean it in the purest eseence of
> love and peace. Mastered individuals that see and feel the
> interconectedness of all of humanity. My album is about raising
> this awareness in each of us. Wether or not Christ himself returns
> is a matter of speculation. That fact is totally out of my hands
> and in part irrelevent to my particular chosen path. All i can do
> is follow my beleifs and continue to better myself in order to
> serve humanity in the most productive and peacful way possible.
>
>
>
> I have read up on the ancient mystery schools that came out of
> egypt and that are now administered in most secret societies and
> how these degrees circumnavigate the tree of life, ultimatly
> leading to enligtenment. Wether this is effective or not i do not
> know but i guess the only way to find out is to immerse yourself in
> that world and work your way to the top as the proof is in the
> pudding. Personally i choose to tread my own made path as i know my
> end goal is self realisation and enlightenment in its purest form
> of love and truth.
>
>
>
> i have seen the video of the indian self proclaimed mesiah and his
> silly hand trick that didnt quite come off! how very silly. These
> fabricators and dupers will always eventually be exposed it is just
> a shame that a handfull of followers commit themselves to these
> types of individuals through blind faith without question. In the
> end crime never pays ;)
>
>
>
> Peace and blessings
>
>
>
> Antonio
>
>
>
> --- On Wed, 20/5/09, Leon Maurer <leonmaurer@ aol. com> wrote:
>
>
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> From: Leon Maurer <leonmaurer@ aol. com>
>
>
>
> Subject: Re: Theos-World Was Alice Bailey "the New Torch-Bearer of
> Truth"?
>
>
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> To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
>
>
>
> Date: Wednesday, 20 May, 2009, 5:04 AM
>
>
>
> Hi Antonio,
>
>
>
> Since everyone here could be reading our letters, and don't always
>
>
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> save read messages, it would be a good idea to quote whatever
>
>
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> posting you are responding to.
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> As I have said all I needed to about your ideas and plans in my last
>
>
>
> correspondence, we'll just have to wait and see if your visions are
>
>
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> real and the future you predict will be realized in this century, if
>
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> not in our lifetimes.
>
>
>
> I may be a bit jaded and skeptical -- since you are the fourth self
>
>
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> proclaimed music maven messiah I have encountered since the mid
>
>
>
> 1940s. I'm still waiting for any of the prophesies they made to come
>
>
>
> true. One of them, a very successful musician (whom I met in the
>
>
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> 60's and toked with in NY Central Park during the 70s) even got
>
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> eliminated by the dark side powers that be -- when he came too close
>
>
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> to initiating his revolution to bring peace and love to the world.
>
>
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> So, there's no way to know whether he was the real messiah (although
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> his music still lives on with his message -- that continues to
>
>
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> influence many people to think and act theosophically) .
>
>
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> In the meantime, we'll all look forward to your forthcoming album --
>
>
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> with the hope that it can really help change the world and bring it
>
>
>
> closer to peace, love, and universal brotherhood.
>
>
>
> To answer your question... I don't think there that any true
>
>
>
> theosophist -- (many of whom are NOT active members of the splintered
>
>
>
> Theosophical Society) -- could ever consider Creme a theosophist or
>
>
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> that the man who calls himself Maitreya, is the Messiah he claims to
>
>
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> be -- since the theosophical Masters themselves do not believe in a
>
>
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> personal God or his supposed avatars in the flesh. As the great
>
>
>
> teacher Jesus said, "you shall know them by their fruits." So, the
>
>
>
> fact that Creme believes in Maitreya makes it obvious that he may be
>
>
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> one of the tools of the "New World Order" conspiracy.
>
>
>
> And, it also should be obvious that the Christ's (NOT Jesus) apparent
>
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> "return" has already occurred within every true theosophist who has
>
>
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> achieved self realization, merged his higher self with the Universal
>
>
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> Self, and has become a nucleus of universal brotherhood -- the prima
>
>
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> object of the theosophical movement.
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>
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> Therefore, no one can claim he is the ONLY Christ-Messiah, in order
>
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> to rule and be worshipped and followed... Like the Pharaohs of
>
>
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> ancient Egypt... None of whom could perform any true miracles --
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> other than fooling ignorant people with the same, apparently magical,
>
>
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> knowledge used by both Jesus and Moses (and even HPB, who also knew
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> all the rules of "glamour" and "Mesmerism" -- like the "Fakirs" in
>
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> India).
>
>
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> No doubt the current Maitreya claimant uses those same "stage magic"
>
>
>
> techniques to fool the superstitious Hindu mobs who attend his
>
>
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> meetings in India.
>
>
>
> Good luck with your album.
>
>
>
> Best wishes,
>
>
>
> Leon
>
>
>
> On May 18, 2009, at 5/18/095:11 PM, Antonio/Tony None wrote:
>
>
>
>> Hi Leon,
>
>
>
>>
>
>
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>> Thanks for your indepth feedback.
>
>
>
>>
>
>
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>> I have taken on board your points of view and what seems to be a
>
>
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>> vast wealth of knowledge, well articulated in your reply.
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>>
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>> I can't help the beliefs that i have, they are a result of my life
>
>
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>> experiences. I beleive it is my calling to break down what the new
>
>
>
>> world order is and what their true agenda is. I would have to agree
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>
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>> that the new world order is a powerful ideal one that could
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>> potential destroy or heal the world in which we live.
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>> The fact remains that regardless of your beliefs, the powers that
>
>
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>> be will indeed see their plans come to fruition. The TS in my
>
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>> opinion has many faces. It is the culmination of opinions and
>
>
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