Theos-Talk Archives (May 2009 Message tt00450)

Dear Duane

Thank you for your constructive response.

Your statement, "?the spirit working over long cycles of time 
has its own wisdom and may know exactly what it is doing" 
itself contains profound humility and wisdom to me.

Moreover your statement, "The study of paradoxes or what appears 
as inconsistencies to the human mind is only one of the first hurdles 
the neophyte most come to understand in the true study of occultism,"
reminds me of two things. 

Firstly, the third and fourth slokas in the Voice of the Silence; 
"The Mind is the great Slayer of the Real. Let the Disciple slay the 
Slayer." 
Only when we allow other faculties to operate within our 
consciousness can we hope to transcend the limitations of our 
reductionist, analytic mindset.

Secondly, from one of the true treasures of the Adyar Theosophical 
Society, Mary Anderson, came the astute words, "Only when our 
mind develops an accommodation for the qualities of ambiguity 
and paradox can it hope to come closer to the mysteries of 
existence."

>From my perspective the "Krishnamurti - Leadbeater fiasco" involved
a far greater intention than the merely individual actions of the various players.  

Kind regards
Nigel


--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Duane Carpenter <monad_monad_monad@...> wrote:
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> Dear Nigel
> Your comment on the Krishnamurti  - Leadbeater fiasco is  the first really
> insightful statement I have heard on  theos-talk on the subject. Thank You. We humans scurry around in our bewilderment about who did what and why when the spirit working over long cycles of time has its own wisdom and may know exactly what it is doing. HPB's statement that "truth is stranger then fiction" may apply here. 
> The study of paradoxes or what appears as inconsistencies to the human mind is only one of the first hurdles the neophyte most come to understand in the true study of occultism.
> Blessings Duane
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> From: Cass Silva <silva_cass@...>
> To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 10:23:29 PM
> Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: The "clairvoyant finding" of Krishnamurti?
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> What is so detrimental about sorting the chaff from the wheat?
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> Cass
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> From: Govert Schuller <schuller@alpheus. org>
> To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, 12 May, 2009 10:57:44 AM
> Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: The "clairvoyant finding" of Krishnamurti?
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> Dear Brian,
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> Thanks for formulating a fair enough criticism on an esoteric conspiricism. 
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> What's your take on the truth about CWL and K? Genuine project? Succesfull project? 
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> Govert
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: butchie122 
> To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com 
> Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 9:38 PM
> Subject: Theos-World Re: The "clairvoyant finding" of Krishnamurti?
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> This post takes the cake; one puts up a 'possibility' , builds a theory & off we go. Why not suggest that the K finding was the result of a papal plot to discredit Theosophy, or of a dugpa, or if the Raj to further undermine the home rule movement. This sort of speculation is nothing to do with Theosophy or The truth about Leadbeater or K. NO wonder this whole site deals with matters that are largely irrelevant to most members.
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> Brian Parry 
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> --- In theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com, "nhcareyta" <nhcareyta@ ..> wrote:
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> > Dear All
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> > Historically, there has been much debate concerning the 
> > putative "claiorvoyant finding" of Jiddu Krishnamurti by 
> > Bishop (then Mr) CW Leadbeater.
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> > Has anybody considered the possibility that the Mahatmas 
> > and/or Karma itself had a role in bringing together the bad 
> > Bishop and Krishnamurti for the purpose of ultimately 
> > confronting the blind, authoritarian, messianic, follower 
> > mindset, promoted by Bishop Leadbeater and Dr Besant, 
> > a mindset so utterly abhorrent to genuine Theosophy?
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> > As we are witnessing in this forum, is it not extraordinary 
> > just how tenaciously resistant the blind, authoritarian mindset 
> > can be in the face of overwhelming evidence and facts?
> > 
> > Regards
> > Nigel
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