Theos-Talk Archives (May 2009 Message tt00182)

Anand tells me:

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There are some mistakes in your logic. You are assuming that if a person stood in the presence of the Lord of the World, that person becomes infallible and nothing what he/she said should be doubted. This assumption is not correct. As you give much importance to Mahatma Letters, I write here a statement from a Mahatma Letter. In it Mahatma says "Light of omniscience and infallible prevision, which shines only for the highest of the Chohans (perhaps Lord of the
World is referred), is still far away from me" That means Masters don't claim to be infallible, and they don't claim to know everything.
If Masters admit it, why does Daniel expect that Annie Besant, Leadbeater or anybody else should be infallible in what they say and do? And Daniel goes to other extreme. He points out few mistakes of disciples and then brands them as "charlatan imitations", fake etc.
What Daniel seems to suggest is there are people who are either always perfect or there are people who are faking everything . In reality, disciples are always in between these two extremes. People should not make mistake of expecting perfection from disciples always and they should not call them charlatans just because disciples made some mistakes.
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Now here Anand sounds like he is halfway making some commonsense observations.  Even quoting the Mahatma Letters!!  :)

But compare what Anand says with what Mr. Leadbeater actually said.  Remember that Leadbeater is encouraging a certain mindset.

Leadbeater tells us:

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"What can I say to you of your President [Annie
Besant] that you do not know already? Her colossal
intellect, her unfailing wisdom, her unrivalled
eloquence, her splendid forgetfulness of self,
her untiring devotion of work for others - all
these are but a small part of her greatness;
they are on the surface, they may be seen by all,
they leap to the eyes. But there are other qualities,
other powers, of which you cannot know, because they
pertain to the secrets of Initiation. She is a
pupil of our Masters; from the fount of Their
archaic wisdom she derives her own, the plans which
she is carrying out are Their plans for the welfare
of the world. THINK THEREFORE, HOW GREAT AN
HONOUR IT IS FOR YOU that you should be permitted
to work under her, for in doing so you are virtually
working under Them. THINK HOW WATCHFUL YOU SHOULD
BE TO MISS NO HINT WHICH FALLS FROM HER LIPS, to carry
out EXACTLY whatever instructions she may give to you.

Remember...there will be times when you cannot
understand her motives, for she is taking into account
many things which you cannot see and of which
she must not tell you. BUT WHETHER YOU UNDERSTAND
OR NOT, YOU WILL BE WISE TO FOLLOW HER IMPLICITLY, JUST
BECAUSE SHE KNOWS.

THIS IS NOT MERE SUPPOSITION ON MY PART, NO MERE
FLIGHT OF THE IMAGINATION; I HAVE STOOD BESIDE YOUR
PRESIDENT IN THE PRESENCE OF THE SUPREME DIRECTOR
OF EVOLUTION ON THIS GLOBE, AND I KNOW WHEREOF I
SPEAK. Let the wise hear my words, and act accordingly."
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I would think almost anyone can see the mindset that Leadbeater is encouraging with his words.

"I KNOW WHEREOF I SPEAK....."

And it would appear that thousands during Leadbeater's time followed his "advice"....

Daniel
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