Theos-Talk Archives (April 2009 Message tt00440)

Not so sure 'charisma' is such a good thing.  HPB lacked it,
but Leadbeater and Besant oozed it - to the detriment of the cause

Cass




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From: MKR <mkr777@gmail.com>
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, 29 April, 2009 10:25:54 AM
Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: Individuals who did much damage to Theosophical movement





I have my own read on the current situation in the Theosophical Movement.

Firstly we do not have any charismatic real leaders who can lead. We may
have many highly educated intellectuals (many are quit old, reminding our
grandpas and grandmas) who are not seen as leaders even though perhaps in
their egoistic minds they may be imagining they are the rescuers of TM. The
TM got a real hit when the election nomination and subsequent allegations
and the final secret coup attempt took place.

Any potential member who reads about all of these would be simply shocked
and perhaps confused too. In addition, we have not seen any dramatic
creative and innovative ideas to restore the credibility of the leaders.

When these kind of causes are at work, what do you expect? A highly vibrant
and growing TM?

When the emperor has no clothes, we have not found a kid yet who will call
the bluff.

MKR

On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 7:14 PM, Anand <AnandGholap@ gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> Dear MKR,
> I was not commenting on freedom of thought and freedom to express thoughts
> online, which you often praise.
> I was writing about how actions of different individuals affected
> Theosophical movement.
> It is not that each and every sentence these individual wrote did damage to
> Theosophical movement. While evaluating I need to consider overall impact of
> their right and wrong actions. And overall impact of online actions of these
> individuals was highly damaging to Theosophical movement. That is why we see
> today Theosophical movement in such a miserable condition.
>
> Anand Gholap
>
> --- In theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com <theos-talk% 40yahoogroups. com>, "Anand"
> <AnandGholap@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > The failure of Theosophy in the West is more because of unwise actions of
> > members of the TS, and individuals related to Theosophy. Officers can
> guide TS
> > in right direction. But as they are democratically elected, they tend to
> fulfill
> > wishes of people, to some extent, even if they would have done things
> > differently, had they no pressure to fulfill wishes of people.
> > Some of the online individuals who did much damage to Theosophical
> movement are
> > these. Reed Carson, the owner of Blavatsky.net who made Theosophical
> movement
> > extremely dogmatic around Blavatsky's writing. Another individual who did
> much
> > damage to Theosophical movement is Katinka Hesselink, who spread wrong
> teaching
> > of J. Krishnamurti in Theosophical Society and thereby misled members of
> TS into
> > believing that J. Krishnamurti' s teaching is Theosophy.
> > Third individual who did much damage to Theosophical movement is Daniel
> > Caldwell. He did damage by regularly attacking Adyar TS, it's leaders,
> past and
> > present, and their teachings.
> > These are some of the individuals who did much damage to Theosophical
> movement
> > by their online activities.
> >
> > Anand Gholap
> >
>
> 
>

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