Re: Theos-World Re: Request: Membership Numbers TS (Adyar)
Apr 28, 2009 09:59 AM
by MKR
As regards Indian Section, whatever may be the opinion or speculation about
what the statistics say or do not say, there are four undeniable facts.
First is the significant size of the membership compared to all other
countries, thus making it the big elephant in the room whether one closes
oneâs eyes or not.
Secondly, anyone who aspires to get elected as the International President,
need to get off their bottoms, take the trouble to travel and lecture in
India so that the membership becomes familiar with the person so that they
can put a face to the name. Indians are not going to be impressed with oneâs
past accomplishments, whatever they may be. John Coats traveled and lectured
as an ordinary member and elected inspite of competition from other well
known Indian candidates.
Thirdly, most members are attached to lodges and tend to vote as a block. In
addition, they tend to be very energized if they see any threats to the
Society.
Fourth, India has thirteen official languages and lodge activities are
carried on in local language. Also, there are quite a few members who have
high school or less education and so they respond to simple straightforward
uncomplicated honest messages.
MKR
On 4/28/09, Govert Schuller <schuller@alpheus.org> wrote:
>
>
>
> Dear Anton,
>
> Fabulous. Great work. Very helpful. Few observations:
>
> 1) Indian membership between 1918 and 1928 declined dramatically as total
> membership increased. (Total membership, Australia, England and USA all
> peaked around 1929, the year of the dissolution of the OSE and just before
> the depression)
>
> India peaked at 9,365 in 1919 (which number they reached again in 1975),
> had a temporary low at 4,980 in 1925 and temporary high again at 6,905 in
> 1928.
>
> What happened between 1918 and 1925 in India?
>
> 2) Your conclusion:
>
> "Therefore, along with an overall high abstention of voters these data, in
> my opinion, additionally shows that there is present in TS membership
> certain disagreement with the policy of actual TS leadership and the choices
> available at the Elections 2008"
>
> is possibly true, but not necessarily so as there are other possible
> explanations like members not being sufficiently informed about what was at
> stake, or, if informed, just being indifferent. I'm sure there were
> abstentions motivated by protest, but it's open how big a percentage that
> was.
>
> Govert
> .
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Anton Rozman
> To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 1:52 AM
> Subject: Theos-World Re: Request: Membership Numbers TS (Adyar)
>
> Hi Govert,
>
> Here are Membership statistics for the period 1879-1983 summarized from Dr.
> Tillett's Ph.D. Thesis:
>
> http://www.teozofija.info/tsmembers/Membership_Statistics.htm
>
> and Membership statistics for 2007/08:
>
> http://www.teozofija.info/tsmembers/Membership_Statistics2007-08.htm
>
> Till now I didn't succeed to gather data for the period 1983-2007.
>
> Best regards,
> Anton
>
> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com>, "Govert
> Schuller" <schuller@...> wrote:
> >
> > Dear all,
> >
> > Does anybody here have the membership numbers throughout the years of TS
> (Adyar)?
> >
> > They have been published on a yearly basis, but has anybody collected
> them in one doc.?
> >
> > Thanks in advance
> >
> > Govert
> >
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