Theos-Talk Archives (April 2009 Message tt00068)

Alex
I do not believe that the Masters have been in contact
with anyone since HPB.  I believe the agenda was to 
bring the ancient teachings to the west via HPB and
as HPB required assistance because english was not her
mother tongue others were seconded at this time to
fulfill the mission.

The completion of the Secret Doctrine finalised their
mission - what we did with it was left in our hands. I
do not believe their agenda was to establish a society
or organization but as I said to leave these fragments
for all those whose karma brought them in contact with
the works.  

That the masters are 'on tap' for every new leader 
to me is a nonsense -  if the left have infiltrated the
society through ignorance and/or glamour of its leaders,
then the outcome lies on their shoulders and to invoke the masters
as rescuers simply reiterates the old religious dogma of
'god/master is on our side'.

Cass




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From: alex <alexmorgan777@hotmail.com>
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, 6 April, 2009 8:26:27 AM
Subject: Theos-World Re: Was head chela D.K. known as Dayal Singh Majithia?


Sorry I wasn't clear, I was answering to this:
"Was the founders of the Rime Movement of Tibetan Buddhism involved with the theosophical Masters?"

Alex

--- In theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com, Cass Silva <silva_cass@ ...> wrote:
>
> What makes you think the Masters are supporting those of the left
> and their movement?   I imagine as Robert? stated that the TS has
> lost it's spiritual link with them
> 
> Cass
> 
> 
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> From: alex <alexmorgan777@ ...>
> To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
> Sent: Sunday, 5 April, 2009 7:17:34 AM
> Subject: Theos-World Re: Was head chela D.K. known as Dayal Singh Majithia?
> 
> 
> Why would the Masters of the right had path support those of the left and their movement?
> Do we not know about Bon? Do we not know about the Red Hats who mix with the practices of Bon? Is it right to have sex, drink alcohol etc. and practice tantra like many of the Nyingmas do?
> 
> Alex 
> 
> --- In theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com, "Morten Nymann Olesen" <global-theosophy@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > Dear friends
> > 
> > 
> > My views are:
> > 
> > Allow me to throw a few thoughts and ask some questions...
> > 
> > 
> > ******* 1 *******
> > 
> > I discovered the following in K. Paul Johnsons book "Initiations of Theosophical Masters" on page 49.
> > 
> > "Another royal sponsor of the TS, Maharaja Bikram Singh of Faridkot, was by 1886 emboiled in a dispute which rent asunder the Singh Sabha. Bikram Singh, patron of the organization, was allied with Thakar Singh Sandhanwalia (KH), Baba Khem Singh Bedi (the Chohan), and Dayal Singh Majithia (Djual Kul) in support of a military uprising against the British." (p. 49)
> > 
> > I wonder what the view of Djual Kul being identical with Dayal Singh Majithia is based on?
> > 
> > 
> > - - - Some info about Dayal Singh Majithia - - -
> > 
> > Dayal Singh Majithia was said to be present at the 1884 TS Convent.
> > Now where is he on the picture?
> > http://www.blavatsk yarchives. com/hpbphotos18. htm
> > 
> > Wikipedia says about Dayal Singh Majithia (1848-1898) 
> > http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Dyal_Singh_ Majithia
> > 
> > Dayal Singh Majithia was for instance a writer and the founder of the India newspaper named The Tribune.
> > 
> > And Annie Besant talked warmly about Dayal Singh Majithia :
> > http://www.geocitie s.com/dyalsinghc ollegekarnal/ singh.html
> > 
> > In this expanded bio he was for instance in heavy Correspondances with a muslim named Maulvi Sayed Ali Muhammad
> > http://www.tribunei ndia.com/ 2003/20030909/ edit.htm
> > 
> > 
> > Are there any more info on who D. K. really was?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ******* 2 *******
> > 
> > 
> > ***A***
> > "The Twelfth Dalai Lama, Trinley Gyatso
> > 
> > The Twelfth Dalai Lama, Trinley Gyatso was born in 1856 in Lhoka, a place near Lhasa to Phuntsok Tsewang and Tsering Yudon.
> > 
> > In 1858, the young boy as Dalai Lama was escorted to Lhasa where Reting Ngawang Yeshi Tsultrim Gyaltsen, the regent gave him the name
> > Thupten Gyatso. In 1860, at the age of five he took the novice vows of monkhood from the Gaden Throne Holder Lobsang Khenrab and he was
> > enthroned in the Potala Palace. In 1873, at the age of eighteen, he took on full responsibility as both spiritual and political leader of Tibet. In
> > 1875, he died at the age of twenty in the Potala Palace."
> > 
> > 
> > *** B ***
> > Thubten Gyatso the 13th Dalai Lama (enthroned in 1879) was born as far away as Lake Baikal.
> > -
> > "The Thirteenth Dalai Lama, Thupten Gyatso
> > 
> > The Thirteenth Dalai Lama, Thupten Gyatso, was born in the year of the Fire Bird in 1876 at Thakpo Langdun in south Tibet to Kunga Rinchen
> > and Lobsang Dolma, a peasant couple.
> > 
> > In 1878, he was recognized as the reincarnation of the Dalai Lama following predictions from the state oracles and auspicious signs at his birth.
> > He was escorted to Lhasa where he was ordained into monkhood by the Panchen Lama, Tenpai Wangchuk, and was given the name Ngawang
> > Lobsang Thupten Gyatso Jigdral Chokley Namgyal. In 1879, the Thirteenth Dalai Lama was enthroned at the Potala Palace."
> > 
> > - - -
> > Was the founders ( ) of the Rime Movement of Tibetan Buddhism involved with the theosophical Masters?
> > http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Rime_movement
> > http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Jamyang_Khyentse _Wangpo
> > http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Jamgon_Kongtrul_ Lodro_Thaye
> > 
> > The Rime Movements importance until today:
> > "In summary, the Rime movement is a timely and unique movement with great consequences, owing much to the two 19th century luminaries Khyentse Wangpo and Jamgon Kongtrul. Without their incredible efforts compiling and transmitting teachings, it is likely that much Buddhist literature would have been lost. It helped break the custom of single lineage teachings which isolated some schools from others, and it established a platform from which people could view all schools with equal respect. In fact Lord Buddha himself forbade his students to criticize teachers and teachings from other traditions and cultures. This is what Rime is all about."
> > http://www.rimebudd hism.com/ tradition_ rime.html
> > - - -
> > 
> > Are there any more info on who D. K. really was?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > M. Sufilight
> > 
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