Theos-Talk Archives (February 2009 Message tt00381)

Dear Henry

Thank you for your insightful post.

You write,"So, HPB could be both a fake and a holder of real Occult 
power at the same time.
The fake stuff is so that people laugh at  her, have no fear of her, 
and allow her to live."

The Mahatma KH writes, "...to assure ourselves that the only 
salvation of the genuine proficients in occult sciences lies in 
the skepticism of the public: the charlatans and the jugglers 
are the natural shields of the "adepts." The public safety is 
only ensured by our keeping secret the terrible weapons which 
might otherwise be used against it, and which, as you have been 
told became deadly in the hands of the wicked and selfish."
Mahatma Letters to AP Sinnet, No. 1 

Regards
Nigel



--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Henry B. Ellak ." 
<henrybellak@...> wrote:
>
> Interesting.
> I have no opinion on this.
> She could have been faking stuff,  There is some data from some 
sources which say
> this.
> 
> I take note of the claims that she faked  stuff but I withhold my 
opinion on it. 
> 
> Which is better, or wiser,
> 
> to be called a faker, and laughed at,
> 
> 
> or to be called a real occultist with very real occult power and 
murdered or burned or hung
> for being a witch or something.
> 
> I do understand that real Occult Power really scares people, and 
when people are 
> in enough fear, they will kill you, if you are the one putting fear 
into them.
> 
> So, HPB could be both a fake and a holder of real Occult power at 
the same time.
> 
> The fake stuff is so that people laugh at  her, have no fear of 
her, and allow her to live.
> 
> end Henry B. Ellak
> 
> 
> 
> --- On Fri, 2/27/09, Anand <AnandGholap@...> wrote:
> From: Anand <AnandGholap@...>
> Subject: Theos-World Re: C.W. Leadbeater, the greatest occultist-
saint of all times
> To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 2:38 AM
> 
> Following passages are taken from a book. 
>  
>   " [Blavatsky's housekeeper, Emma Cutting, demonstrated] how she 
and
> HPB had made a doll together, which they ... manipulated on a long
> bamboo pole in semi-darkness to provide the Master's alleged
> apparitions. Emma had also dropped "precipitated" letters on to
> Theosophical heads from holes in the ceiling, while her husband had
> made sliding panels and hidden entrances into the shrine room
> [adjoining HPB's bedroom] to facilitate Blavatsky's comings and 
goings
> and make possible the substitution of all the brooches, dishes and
> other objects that she used in her demonstrations [i.e., as 
purported
> materializations or "apports"].... 
> 
>     The Russian journalist V. S. Solovieff claimed to have caught
> [Blavatsky] red-handed with the silver bells which produced astral
> music [in séances].... Blavatsky confessed to Solovieff quite 
bluntly
> that the phenomena were fraudulent, adding that one must deceive men
> in order to rule them (Washington, 1995). "
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>       
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>