Theos-Talk Archives (February 2009 Message tt00119)

Dear Adelaisie

Lovely to hear from you again.

You write, "Would you be so kind as to just list in terms of 
root races, sub-races, and rounds where we are according to 
HPB?"

As you can no doubt see from some of the recent posts, this 
is a very complex field with no easy answer for sub-race and 
even root race, but with significant implications. I don't believe 
the answer concerning sub-race or root-race is as clear cut as 
some would have us believe, in terms of the question you ask.

The initial question we need to ask is to which "we" are we 
referring? 

Madame Blavatsky writes, "Let the reader remember well that 
which is said of the divisions of Root Races and the evolution of 
Humanity in this work, and stated clearly and concisely in 
Mr. Sinnett's `Esoteric Buddhism.'  
There are seven ROUNDS in every manvantara; this one is 
the Fourth, and we are in the Fifth Root-Race, at present. 
Each Root-Race has seven sub-races. Each sub-race has, in 
its turn, seven ramifications, which may be called Branch or 
"Family" races. SD 2 p 435
 
>From this we can safely say that from Madame Blavatsky's
teachings we are in the fourth round and that "we" may be in the 
fifth root race.

However the Mahatma KH writes, "?the highest people now 
on earth (spiritually) belong to the first sub-race of the fifth 
root Race, and those are the Aryan Asiatics; the highest race 
(physical intellectuality) is the last sub-race of the fifth ? 
yourselves the white conquerors. The majority of mankind belongs 
to the seventh sub-race of the fourth Root race, ? the above 
mentioned Chinamen and their off-shoots and branchlets (Malayans, 
Mongolians, Tibetans, Javanese, etc., etc., etc.) and remnants 
of other sub-races of the fourth ? and the seventh sub-race of 
the third race. ML 93 b Chronology of George Linton and Virginia 
Hanson.

So, in terms of sub-race and root-race, which "we" are we to 
apply to each human being in question, the spiritual "we" or the 
physical/intellectual "we"; the "Aryan" or Atlantean "we" or even 
the Lemurian "we?" 
With our current multi-cultural world, with its multitudinous 
mixed-marriage offspring, how would we judge?

And Madame Blavatsky writes, ""It would only lead to hopeless 
confusion if any attempt were made to give accurate dates to a 
few; for the Races, Sub-Races, etc., etc., down to their smallest 
ramifications, overlap and are entangled with each other until it is 
nearly impossible to separate them."
SD 2 p 435

This point is significant as the races and sub-races overlap and 
are considerably "entangled" making it "nearly impossible to 
separate them."

So, from these few short extracts we can see that this issue is far 
from clear, and is potentially fraught with error and worse, value 
judgment.

Kind regards 
Nigel



--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "adelasie" <adelasie@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Nigel,
> 
> Would you be so kind as to just list in terms of root races, sub-
> races, and rounds where we are according to HPB? My mind just does 
> not grasp this particular issue and I find it helps if someone lays 
> it out for me from time to time.
> 
> Thanks!
> Adelasie
> 
> -> Madame Blavatsky wrote as quoted, ""But we are in the
> > 5th race, and we have already passed the turning or axial point
> > of our "sub-race cycle."
> >
> > There are 7 sub-races.
> >
> > The fourth is the middle or axial sub-race, being between the
> > first and last 3.
> >
> > From my understanding, a sub-race cycle is the period and
> > processing of all 7 sub-races.
> >
> > Madame Blavatsky is saying we are passed the middle point
> > of the sub-race cycle.
> >
> ,_._,___
>