Theos-Talk Archives (February 2009 Message tt00083)

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From: Duane Carpenter <monad_monad_monad@yahoo.com>
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2009 9:30:15 AM
Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: 4th sub-race

Dear Joseph
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Sincerely Duane
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From: Joseph P. Fulton <jpfulton314@cox.net>
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2009 2:42:03 AM
Subject: Theos-World Re: 4th sub-race


One thing that puzzles me in the midst of all of this discussion is 
the comments that HPB made in regards to the "Seven Keys" which must 
be turned in order to understand the SD correctly. In this case, I 
refer to specifically the key of astrology.

In the "Divine Plan", Barborka touched upon the Yugas and the 
procession of the Equinoxes. Where is the astrological research that 
validates the timing of the races / sub-races, etc.? The only 
specific day that I recall having been specifically mentioned to us 
is the battle in the Bhagavad Gita, along with its astrological 
configuration.

Also, in relation to this question, any ideas on the relations of 
Subba Row's article on the "12 Signs of the Zodiac" to the subject at 
hand?

Thoughts?

Joe

--- In theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com, "Govert Schuller" <schuller@.. .> 
wrote:
>
> Dear all,
> 
> 
> From the quotes below (the 'dead letter' interpretation) it looks 
like
> we are in Root-race 5 (Aryan), Sub-race 5 (Teutonic). Two quotes 
from
> HPB and one by 'Alpha' reflecting the understanding of a member. 
This
> understanding is also reflected in a little graph by Jinarajadasa,
> which some might call the Besant-Leadbeater interpretation, but 
might
> very well be in accordance with HPB. See:
> http://users. ez2.net/nick29/ theosophy/ lessons15. htm
> 
> If HPB contradicted herself, and if to save her from the charge of
> inconsistency by saying that some of her statements were blinds, in
> what way are we to reconcile these contradictions? How do we know
> what's a blind and what not? And if a contradiction is found and one
> of the statements therefore allegedly a blind, does that make the
> subject more important? Or is it possible that HPB was not able to
> keep her globes, rounds, root races, sub-races, etc. straight 
because
> of the complexity of the matter and made occasional mistakes and
> Theosophists upon finding contradictions, would jump to the 
conclusion
> that a blind was involved, even while it might have been a mistake.
> Or, as anti-metaphysical commentators might charge, HPB's fantasies
> became too complex for her own mind and she was not able to keep her
> story consistent. Just thinking aloud. 
> 
> "I propose to show therefore, in my next, that as we are still only 
in
> the 5th subrace of the Parent race, and none of us shall live to see
> the 7th?when things shall mend naturally?that it is just as well not
> to hang our hopes on science, whether orthodox or semi-heretical. "
> (BCW VII, 70)
> 
> "At the close of every Root-Race there comes a cataclysm, in turn by
> fire or water. Immediately after the "Fall into generation" the 
dross
> of the third Root-Race?those who fell into sensuality by falling off
> from the teaching of the Divine Instructors?were destroyed, after
> which the Fourth Root-Race originated, at the end of which took 
place
> the last Deluge." (BCW IX, 81)
> 
> "Since the life-wave reached globe D in this fourth round, four
> root-races have run their course upon it, and the fifth root-race 
has
> reached its fifth subdivision or sub-race, of which we are part. 
This
> fifth sub-race is said to be preparing in America for transition or
> transformation into the sixth sub-race: it is not entirely clear
> whether we in the United States today belong to the seventh
> family-race of the fifth sub-race, or to the first family race of 
the
> sixth sub-race. It seems certain that we are near the transition
> point, unless there must be an intervening pralayic period." (ALPHA,
> Path, December, 1892)
>



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