Theos-Talk Archives (January 2009 Message tt00655)

I am one of the early users of computers and hence when I had my first taste
of Internet, I could see even in a limited way how it can be a saviour to
spread theosophy. Much to my disappointment, it was ignored too long and
what better way to bring attention than talk about some basic issues
important to theosophy.

Also, not being involved in organizational administration and not having an
axe to grind to get elected or appointed to a position or expect favors from
administration, I was able to present the view point of ordinary member.

Much to my satisfaction, from time to time, I received encouragement from
members around the world. Let us all hope that the eyes of organizational
leaders would be opened up and we move forward. There is too much at stake
for all of us to keep silent and keep quiet.

Internet is a level field which works very well - first object in practice.
I think the fear of not being looked up, make the leaders avoid coming and
discussing. I wish HPB were here today. She would have a field day with
Internet with its international reach and the velocity and the very low cost
to use.

M K Ramadoss

MKR777_at_GMAIL.COM



On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 8:36 PM, nhcareyta <nhcareyta@yahoo.com.au> wrote:

>   Dear William
>
> You write, "With a smug imperial contentedness Warwick Keys
> "Refuses" to engage in respectful dialogue or answer
> questions of accountability with those whom he refers to
> as "Discontents & Bleaters."
>
> And, "After all thats EXACTLY what we are attempting to
> do is to find the actual TRUTH. Of course, you can remain
> behind your smug imperial perogative, that speaks the
> TRUTH more eloquently that any rhetoric you could offer."
>
> I have experienced this extraordinary attitude on occasion
> in the Adyar Theosophical Society whereby previously
> friendly, approachable people, female and male, upon
> reaching high office, have become aloof and seemingly
> disconnected from the broader membership.
>
> Some have even become arrogant and contemptuous towards
> the general membership, as well as towards those who do
> not support their position on any given subject or issue.
>
> These traits are of course the trappings of power which is
> perhaps one of the reasons why so many senior members of the
> Adyar Society and others do not involve themselves in this
> forum.
>
> Whilst the pressures of time and office can excuse avoidance
> of trivial issues, those that have been raised relentlessly
> here by Adyar TS member Ramadoss over many months have been
> anything but trivial.
>
> Truth, openness of dialogue and respect for all should be the
> very essence of theosophy and its institutions if we are to
> practice "brotherhood" and avoid unnecessary misunderstandings
> and grievances .
>
> It seems some in the Adyar Society hierarchy need to recognise
> the value of dissenters, as did Madame Blavatsky, rather than
> perceive them as irrelevant or even dangerous irritants.
>
> We could perhaps all do well to remind ourselves of these words
> from Desiderata:
> "Speak your truth quietly and clearly;
> and listen to others,
> even to the dull and the ignorant;
> they too have their story."
>
> Regards
> Nigel
>
> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com>,
> "t_s_theosophist"
> <THEOSOPHIST@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > WARWICK KEYS RESPONDS WITH A REFUSAL TO RESPOND
> >
> > -----------------
> > You can view Mr. Keys response:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/theos-talk/message/48710
> >
> > ----------------------
> >
> >
> > With a smug imperial contentedness Warwick Keys "Refuses" to engage
> in respectful dialogue or answer questions of accountability with
> those whom he refers to as "Discontents & Bleaters."
> >
> >
> > Such disdain for the intelligence of ordinary members is repugnant
> to the democratic mindset and process.
> >
> >
> > I do not mind the pejoratives, I have been called worse. But I have
> always followed the rules, Level, Plumb, & Square. I am puzzeled by
> Mr Keys refusal to answer directly and openly simple questions of
> integrity and accountability regarding the genesis of the noted
> proposals to change the Society.
> >
> >
> > It looks as if this has all struck a very sensitive nerve, and we
> should all be on guard about
> > any leader who would hide beind "imperial privilidge" and a disdain
> for the protocols of
> > open democratic dialogue, much less for the respect of ordinary
> fellow members.
> >
> >
> > Mr Keys asks us to "Stop bleating with uninformed and emotive
> nonsense and open your eyes and ears to TRUTH. This is my one and
> only comment."
> >
> >
> > I fail to see how a direct probing and inquiry for honest answers
> can be construed as "uninformed and emotive nonsense" as Mr.Keys puts
> it.
> >
> >
> > After all thats EXACTLY what we are attempting to do is to find the
> actual TRUTH. Of course, you can remain behind your smug imperial
> perogative, that speaks the TRUTH more eloquently that any rhetoric
> you could offer.
> >
> >
> > Fraternally;
> >
> > William Delahunt
> > Orlando, Florida
> > Theosophist@...
> >
> >
> > =====================
> >
> > INFORMATION LINKS
> >
> > Keep Up To Date On The Discussion of These Issues....
> >
> >
> > After the General Council Meeting 2008
> >
> > (click link)
> > http://teozofija.info/Teozofsko_gibanje/After_Convention_2008.htm
> >
> >
> > Time for Healing and Creative Solutions
> >
> > (click link)
> > http://teozofija.info/Teozofsko_gibanje/Healing_Time.htm
> >
> >
> > --------------------------
> >
> > It Is Important That Members Should Talk To Each Other, and
> increase The Lateral Communication Among Ourselves.
> >
> > LET'S TALK
> >
> > Click this link to begin the journey and Dialogue...
> >
> > (click link)
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TSDIALOGUE/
> >
> > ---------------------------
> >
> > Share These Links With Your Lodges And Groups And Other
> Theosophists You Know Of.
> >
> > =============================
> >
>
>  
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]