Theos-Talk Archives (December 2008 Message tt00333)

Here is the reference to Vril and Bulwer-Lytton in Vol XIV of HPB CW pp 104.
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"Who in our modern day knows anything of the real significance of, and the
powers contained in, certain characters and signsââtalismans ââwhether for
beneficent or evil purposes? Fragments of the Runes and the writing of the
Kischuph, found scattered in old mediaeval libraries; copies from the
Ephesian and Milesian letters or characters; the thrice famous Book of
Thoth, and the terrible treatises (still preserved) of Targes, the
Chaldaean, and his disciple Tarchon, the Etruscanââwho flourished long
before the Trojan Warââare so many names and appellations void of sense
(though met with in classical literature) for the educated modern scholar.
Who, in the nineteenth century, believes in the art, described in such
treatises as those of Targes, of evoking and directing thunderbolts? Yet the
same is described in the Brahmanical literature, and Targes copied his
"thunderbolts" from the Astra,* those terrible engines of destruction known
to the MahÃbhÃratan Ãryans. A whole arsenal of dynamite bombs would pale
before this artââif it ever becomes understood by the Westerners. It is from
an old fragment that was translated to him, that the late Lord Bulwer-Lytton
got his idea of Vril. It is a lucky thing, indeed, that, in the face of the
virtues and philanthropy that grace our age of iniquitous wars, of
anarchists and dynamiters, the secrets contained in the books discovered in
Numa's tomb should have been burnt. But the science of Circ' and M'dea is
not lost. One can discover it in the apparent gibberish of the TÃntrika
Sutras, the Kuku-ma of the Bhutani and the Sikkim Dugpas and "Red-caps" of
Tibet, and even in the sorcery of the Nilgiri Mula-Kurumbas. Very luckily
few outside the high practioners of the Left Path and of the Adepts of the
Rightââin whose hands the weird secrets of the real meaning are
safeââunderstand the "black" evocations. Otherwise the Western as much as
the Eastern Dugpas might make short work of their enemies. The name of the
latter is legion, for the direct descendants of the antediluvian sorcerers
hate all those who are not with them, arguing that, therefore, they are
against them."

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* This is a kind of magical bow and arrow calculated to destroy in one
moment whole armies; it is mentioned in the RÃmÃyana, the PurÃnas and
elsewhere.
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On 12/20/08, Augoeides-222@comcast.net <Augoeides-222@comcast.net> wrote:
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> mkr,
>   Sir Edward Bulwer Lytton, Bart. a Lord, was also a high Mason if my
> recall is right. HPB references his "Zanoni" fervently. He wrote plenty of
> works, very wordy. In the foreword of Zanoni page XX the editor reproduces a
> strange script that is ignegmatic and he states it goes on for 940 mortal
> pages in foolscarp.
>
>   Everyone loves a good Mystery. look! The hook emerges. Did the Editor of
> Zanoni read a Vril manuscript? If not then what?
>
> Regards,
> John
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: MKR <mkr777@gmail.com>
> There is a reference to Vril in HPB's CW where it is stated that Bulwer
> Litton named it after reading some old inscriptions/records.
>
> mkr
>
> On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 9:38 AM, <Augoeides-222@comcast.net> wrote:
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> > Theo,
> > I don't remember much of the "Vril" thing right now it was a passing
> > mention many years ago (in the 1950's) here in America due to I think a
> > couple of Hollywood movies and a few minor fad books. But Looking in a
> good
> > resource for star names "Star Names -- Their Lore and meaning" by Richard
> > Hinckley Allen,Dover Publications, 1963 ( a reprint of the 1899 ,G. E.
> > Stechert edition) ISBN # 0- 486 - 21079 - 0. On page385the Akkadian name
> of
> > Aldebaran was Dil-gan "Messenger of Light". This star is 28 light years
> > distance from out solar system. If I recall correct Aldebaran is a Red
> Giant
> > Class Star. It is described as a "Pale Rose Colored" star. So perhaps the
> > DVD will inform why it can be associated with a "Black Sun."
> >
> > Regards,
> > John
> > -------------- Original message ----------------------
> > From: "paijmanstheo" <th.paijmans@wxs.nl>
> > > The whole Aldebaran stuff is nonsense too and is just a mid 1990's
> > > embellishment by a couple of Viennese dilletants.
> > >
> > > regards,
> > >
> > > Theo
> > >
> > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Drpsionic@... wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Ok, let's do this right.
> > > >
> > > > There is a lot of nonsense about the Vril out there and I hope I get
> > > to see
> > > > the documentary to see how much nonsense it continues with. These
> > > things
> > > > have to be seen in their historic context but the most interesting
> > > feature of
> > > > the Vril is not the flying saucer that never existed or we would all
> > > be speaking
> > > > German, but rather the attempts to communicate with Aldebaran, or
> > > something
> > > > living out near there. And then we get into the question of whether
> > > the
> > > > Black Sun is Aldebaran or located in the center of the Earth.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Chuck the Heretic
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > In a message dated 12/19/2008 7:20:46 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> > > > mkr777@... writes:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Has anyone recently saw on the Discovery Channel, the documentary
> > > titled,
> > > > "Dark Fellowships: The Vril"?
> > > >
> > > > Amazon which sells the DVD, states:
> > > > "Uncover the truth surrounding one of the most renowned and feared
> > > > organizations in the world Ãâ" the Vril Society. Explore conspiracy
> > > theories,
> > > > retrace historical events, and investigate internal agendas while
> > > uncovering
> > > > the secrets of the society's macabre rituals.
> > > >
> > > > Discover what occult rites were performed by this dangerous group
> > > in their
> > > > dark lust for ultimate power and learn how and where this
> > > organization Ãâ"
> > > > which existed at the core of the Nazi Party Ãâ" still thrives
> > > today, almost
> > > > 100 years after its founding."
> > > >
> > > > Some members in NZ who happened to watch this, noted that a very
> > > well-known
> > > > theosophist in England, Edi Billimoria is on the documentary
> > > presenting the
> > > > view of TS.
> > > >
> > > > In my area, the documentary is planned to be shown next couple of
> > > weeks. May
> > > > be it will be shown in your area soon.
> > > >
> > > > MKR
> > > >
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