Theos-Talk Archives (December 2008 Message tt00320)

Morten,
   You seem attached to the Joshua ben Pandera abusive Roman ridicule for some reason. G. R. S. Mead in his survey says it is invalid and was created for the purpose of ridiclue. Their version of Joshua ben Pandera ( a fallacious, false name is that a Roman Centurian had sex with a whore who conceived and birthed the Christ Child.In that time it was a malicious rumor used to smear, ridicule and make nothing of this upstart religion of the early Christians. There are no tangible credible records of the Romans in regard to Jesus of Nazareth. G. R. S. Mead also wrote "Did Jesus Live 100 B.C.". An inquiry into the Talmudic Jesus stories, the Toldoth Jeschu, and some curious statements of Epiphanius--- being a contribution to the study of Christian Origins by G.R.S. Mead B .A. M.R.A.S., 1903.

 Also I recommend his "Fragments of a Faith Forgotten" an indispensable survey recommended by all Religious Scholars , Library of Congress # 60-15310.

Regards,
John

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From: "Morten Nymann Olesen" <global-theosophy@stofanet.dk> 
Allright.
Jesus (Jehosua Pandira) was mortal, and Christ was and is not.
I think I got it now.

M. Sufilight

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Cass Silva 
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 1:21 AM
Subject: Re: Theos-World 2012 ?

Calleman is saying that the date is 28 October 2011
Cass
http://www.experiencefestival.com/a/2012/id/1726

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From: Morten Nymann Olesen <global-theosophy@stofanet.dk>
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, 20 December, 2008 4:57:20 AM
Subject: Re: Theos-World 2012 ?

Is there anyone who can help me out, and who understands Christina words in this thread?

M. Sufillight

----- Original Message ----- 
From: christinaleestemake r 
To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com 
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 10:55 PM
Subject: Re: Theos-World 2012 ?

If you and you think for others, don't understand me; While you don't 
understand what masters say on it.That are not my words, I only 
citate them.
Christina

-- In theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com, "Morten Nymann Olesen" <global-
theosophy@.. .> wrote:
>
> My views are:
> 
> Yes?
> And then what?
> 
> ---
> I am not sure I and others understand you.
> 
> 
> M. Sufilight
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: christinaleestemake r 
> To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 8:53 PM
> Subject: Re: Theos-World 2012 ?
> 
> 
> Ok as I read in Mahatma Letters, Jesus as mortal like anyone of 
us, 
> an adept more by his inherent purity and ignorance of real evil, 
> than by what he have learned with his initiated rabbis and the 
> already (at that period) fast degenerating Eyptian Hierophants 
and 
> priests. etc 
> Letter 59 page 339 Barkers edition 1979
> 
> --- In theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com, "Morten Nymann Olesen" <global-
> theosophy@> wrote:
> >
> > My views are:
> > 
> > The "darkness" mentioned by Blavatsky is about when Jesus 
(Joshua 
> Pandira) was born and when he taught. Today the Christian Church 
is, 
> as far as I view it, still in darkness, and a number of those who 
> call themselves filled with wisdom are also in darkness, because 
they 
> find the Bible to be infallible.
> > 
> > 
> > M. Sufilight
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: christinaleestemake r 
> > To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com 
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 6:29 PM
> > Subject: Re: Theos-World 2012 ?
> > 
> > 
> > So what after 33 years? If 1-33 is darkness, is not the whole 
> > darkness?
> > Christina
> > 
> > / 
> > --- In theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com, "Morten Nymann Olesen" 
<global-
> > theosophy@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear friends
> > > 
> > > My views are:
> > > 
> > > Blavatsky and Master said that Jesus was born in Lod (Lydda) 
> year 
> > 120 BC.
> > > 
> > > W. C. Leadbeater and Annie Besant said 105 BC. And Alice A. 
> Bailey 
> > wrote a book titled "From Bethlehem to Calvary" saying in this 
> book, 
> > that "the historical accuracy of His story remains as yet 
> unsolved" 
> > and "for when He was born at Bethlehem, it was not simply the 
> birth 
> > of another divine Teacher and Messenger" .
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Now who is telling the truth?
> > > 
> > > - - -
> > > 
> > > H. P. Blavatsky on the New Testament and Jesus:
> > > "This theory of the seven keys, the Church, according to the 
> Abbé 
> > Roca, has simplified "without disfiguring it," reducing the 
keys 
> to 
> > three; while, on the contrary, it has fabricated three false 
keys 
> > which do not open anything. The legend of which I speak is 
> founded, 
> > as I have demonstrated over and over again in my writings and 
my 
> > notes, on the existence of a personage called Jehoshua (from 
> which 
> > Jesus has been made) born at Lüd or Lydda about 120 years 
before 
> the 
> > modern era. And if this fact is denied-to which I can hardly 
> object-
> > one must resign oneself to regard the hero of the drama of 
> Calvary as 
> > a myth pure and simple. As a matter of fact, in spite of all 
the 
> > desperate research made during long centuries, if we set aside 
> the 
> > testimony of the "Evangelists, " i.e., unknown men whose 
identity 
> has 
> > never been established, and that of the Fathers of the Church, 
> > interested fanatics, neither history, nor profane tradition, 
> neither 
> > official documents, nor the contemporaries of the soi-disant 
> drama, 
> > are able to provide one single serious proof of the historical 
> and 
> > real existence, not only of the Man-God but even of him called 
> Jesus 
> > of Nazareth, from the year 1 to the year 33. All is darkness 
and 
> > silence." 
> > > (H. P. Blavatsly's Collected Writings, vol. 9, p. 225-6). 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > M. Sufilight
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: christinaleestemake r 
> > > To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com 
> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 5:31 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Theos-World 2012 ?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Right, no one can be sure, for we have not been in the time 
> Jezus 
> > was 
> > > born.It was written that he was there long before the 
counting 
> > > started in the year 1 from our calender
> > > 
> > > Christina
> > > 
> > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com, Cass Silva <silva_cass@ > 
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Not sure what you are getting at Christina
> > > > Cass
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __
> > > > From: christinaleestemake r <christinaleestemak er@>
> > > > To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, 17 December, 2008 10:03:26 PM
> > > > Subject: Theos-World 2012 ?
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > I read somewhere Leon wrote to Cass the change in 2012 but 
we 
> > must 
> > > > not forget that our beginning of yearcounting happened 7 
> years 
> > > after 
> > > > Jezus birthday.
> > > > Christina
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
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