Theos-Talk Archives (December 2008 Message tt00277)

If you and you think for others, don't understand me; While you don't 
understand what masters say on it.That are not my words, I only 
citate them.
Christina






-- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Morten Nymann Olesen" <global-
theosophy@...> wrote:
>
> My views are:
> 
> Yes?
> And then what?
> 
> ---
> I am not sure I and others understand you.
> 
> 
> M. Sufilight
> 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: christinaleestemaker 
>   To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 8:53 PM
>   Subject: Re: Theos-World 2012 ?
> 
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>   Ok as I read in Mahatma Letters, Jesus as mortal like anyone of 
us, 
>   an adept more by his inherent purity and ignorance of real evil, 
>   than by what he have learned with his initiated rabbis and the 
>   already (at that period) fast degenerating Eyptian Hierophants 
and 
>   priests. etc 
>   Letter 59 page 339 Barkers edition 1979
> 
>   --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Morten Nymann Olesen" <global-
>   theosophy@> wrote:
>   >
>   > My views are:
>   > 
>   > The "darkness" mentioned by Blavatsky is about when Jesus 
(Joshua 
>   Pandira) was born and when he taught. Today the Christian Church 
is, 
>   as far as I view it, still in darkness, and a number of those who 
>   call themselves filled with wisdom are also in darkness, because 
they 
>   find the Bible to be infallible.
>   > 
>   > 
>   > M. Sufilight
>   > 
>   > ----- Original Message ----- 
>   > From: christinaleestemaker 
>   > To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com 
>   > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 6:29 PM
>   > Subject: Re: Theos-World 2012 ?
>   > 
>   > 
>   > So what after 33 years? If 1-33 is darkness, is not the whole 
>   > darkness?
>   > Christina
>   > 
>   > / 
>   > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Morten Nymann Olesen" 
<global-
>   > theosophy@> wrote:
>   > >
>   > > Dear friends
>   > > 
>   > > My views are:
>   > > 
>   > > Blavatsky and Master said that Jesus was born in Lod (Lydda) 
>   year 
>   > 120 BC.
>   > > 
>   > > W. C. Leadbeater and Annie Besant said 105 BC. And Alice A. 
>   Bailey 
>   > wrote a book titled "From Bethlehem to Calvary" saying in this 
>   book, 
>   > that "the historical accuracy of His story remains as yet 
>   unsolved" 
>   > and "for when He was born at Bethlehem, it was not simply the 
>   birth 
>   > of another divine Teacher and Messenger" .
>   > > 
>   > > 
>   > > Now who is telling the truth?
>   > > 
>   > > - - -
>   > > 
>   > > H. P. Blavatsky on the New Testament and Jesus:
>   > > "This theory of the seven keys, the Church, according to the 
>   Abbé 
>   > Roca, has simplified "without disfiguring it," reducing the 
keys 
>   to 
>   > three; while, on the contrary, it has fabricated three false 
keys 
>   > which do not open anything. The legend of which I speak is 
>   founded, 
>   > as I have demonstrated over and over again in my writings and 
my 
>   > notes, on the existence of a personage called Jehoshua (from 
>   which 
>   > Jesus has been made) born at Lüd or Lydda about 120 years 
before 
>   the 
>   > modern era. And if this fact is denied-to which I can hardly 
>   object-
>   > one must resign oneself to regard the hero of the drama of 
>   Calvary as 
>   > a myth pure and simple. As a matter of fact, in spite of all 
the 
>   > desperate research made during long centuries, if we set aside 
>   the 
>   > testimony of the "Evangelists," i.e., unknown men whose 
identity 
>   has 
>   > never been established, and that of the Fathers of the Church, 
>   > interested fanatics, neither history, nor profane tradition, 
>   neither 
>   > official documents, nor the contemporaries of the soi-disant 
>   drama, 
>   > are able to provide one single serious proof of the historical 
>   and 
>   > real existence, not only of the Man-God but even of him called 
>   Jesus 
>   > of Nazareth, from the year 1 to the year 33. All is darkness 
and 
>   > silence." 
>   > > (H. P. Blavatsly's Collected Writings, vol. 9, p. 225-6). 
>   > > 
>   > > 
>   > > 
>   > > 
>   > > 
>   > > M. Sufilight
>   > > 
>   > > 
>   > > 
>   > > 
>   > > ----- Original Message ----- 
>   > > From: christinaleestemaker 
>   > > To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com 
>   > > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 5:31 PM
>   > > Subject: Re: Theos-World 2012 ?
>   > > 
>   > > 
>   > > Right, no one can be sure, for we have not been in the time 
>   Jezus 
>   > was 
>   > > born.It was written that he was there long before the 
counting 
>   > > started in the year 1 from our calender
>   > > 
>   > > Christina
>   > > 
>   > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Cass Silva <silva_cass@> 
>   wrote:
>   > > >
>   > > > Not sure what you are getting at Christina
>   > > > Cass
>   > > > 
>   > > > 
>   > > > 
>   > > > 
>   > > > ________________________________
>   > > > From: christinaleestemaker <christinaleestemaker@>
>   > > > To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
>   > > > Sent: Wednesday, 17 December, 2008 10:03:26 PM
>   > > > Subject: Theos-World 2012 ?
>   > > > 
>   > > > 
>   > > > I read somewhere Leon wrote to Cass the change in 2012 but 
we 
>   > must 
>   > > > not forget that our beginning of yearcounting happened 7 
>   years 
>   > > after 
>   > > > Jezus birthday.
>   > > > Christina
>   > > > 
>   > > > 
>   > > > 
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