Theos-Talk Archives (December 2008 Message tt00230)

Thanx for the link, its a trip! Here is one souvenir I came back with:

THE SONS EXPAND AND CONTRACT THROUGH THEIR OWN SELVES AND HEARTS; 
THEY EMBRACE INFINITUDE. . . . EACH IN TURN A PART OF THE WEB. 
REFLECTING THE "SELF-EXISTENT LORD" LIKE A MIRROR, EACH BECOMES IN 
TURN A WORLD. (Stanza of Dzyan,Verses III, 11-12) 

 
--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "christinaleestemaker" 
<christinaleestemaker@...> wrote:
>
> www.zeropoint.ca/table_mm.htm
> 
> For the ones who need more investigation
> 
> Christina
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "christinaleestemaker" 
> <christinaleestemaker@> wrote:
> >
> > Just read and see.
> > 
> > Christina
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Semock" <semockr@> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > What he said!
> > > 
> > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Leon Maurer <leonmaurer@> 
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Cass,
> > > > 
> > > > Yes, I think we've already broken through the last barrier 
> > toward  
> > > > fulfilling HPB's prophesy in the very near future.  (Perhaps 
> this 
> > > is  
> > > > the great new change that the Mayan calendar has been telling 
> us 
> > > is  
> > > > coming around 2012... Not an end, but a beginning. ;-)
> > > > 
> > > > The final proof will come when the ABC model can be 
> demonstrated 
> > > as  
> > > > fact beyond a shadow of a doubt.  Already research is being 
> > > planned  
> > > > that will demonstrate, so everyone can see and experience it, 
> > that  
> > > > the universe is a hologram, and what we can know of it is 
> already 
> > > in  
> > > > our higher mind...  Pretty much the way HPB described it (if 
> you 
> > > can  
> > > > read the SD "in and around the words and between the lines" 
and 
> > > cut  
> > > > through all the "blinds").
> > > > 
> > > > As for the previous universe and pralaya...
> > > > 
> > > > All that it requires, is for the universe to continue to 
expand 
> > --  
> > > > and lose entropy -- until everything in it dissolves back 
into 
> > the  
> > > > aether or absolute space... With total metric space and its 
> mass- 
> > > > energy "particles" and their forms compacting into infinite 
> zero- 
> > > > (laya) points of spin momentum or "abstract motion" (while 
> still  
> > > > containing all the information as holographic wave 
> interference  
> > > > patterns)... While that aether, which in its overall nature 
is 
> > like 
> > > a  
> > > > "Bose Einstein Condensate" (see wikipedia.com) remains ONE 
> > > thing...  
> > > > "Whose center, when manifest, is everywhere and circumference 
> > > nowhere".
> > > > 
> > > > That "total space" (as Einstein called it) is the cosmic  
> > > > "singularity" that reflects itself in every potentially 
> > conscious  
> > > > black hole at the center of every universal form -- whose 
> still  
> > > > center, at absolute zero, during pralaya, is pure (sleeping)  
> > > > potential cosmic consciousness and potential matter... Ready 
to 
> > > wake  
> > > > up again and go through another cosmogenesis, until we all 
> > > reappear  
> > > > in the new cycle of life, to further evolve on a higher 
plane, 
> > and  
> > > > take up where we left off in the previous manvantara ;-)  See:
> > > > http://www.leonmaurer.info/ABCimages/evolution2.gif
> > > > Note that the fractal involved field model of cosmogenesis  
> > > > analogously applies to the physical universe as well as all 
> the  
> > > > galaxies and other forms of mass-energy, on down through our 
> > solar  
> > > > system and planet, to the fundamental particles (spherical 
> > > standing  
> > > > waves) of light. See:
> > > > (head on cross section of a single spherically polarized 
photon)
> > > > http://www.leonmaurer.info/ABCimages/PhotonField.gif
> > > > And compare to: (cosmogenesis at the third Logos)
> > > > http://www.leonmaurer.info/ABCimages/Chakrafield-spherical-
> > col_3.jpg
> > > > 
> > > > For an interesting take on this, see Feynman's talk about 
light:
> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjHJ7FmV0M4
> > > > 
> > > > All that -- putting together Einstein's general relativity, 
> > > Feynman's  
> > > > quantum electrodynamics, Bohm-Pribram's' holographic 
paradigm, 
> > > Kaluza- 
> > > > Klien-Greene-Witten-Kaku's string and membrane physics -- 
> > > certainly  
> > > > is "scientific"... And, all of it totally consistent with the 
> > ABC  
> > > > model of cosmogenesis, based solely on the formulas in the 
Book 
> > of  
> > > > Dzyan, as explained by HPB.
> > > > 
> > > > Then, when pralaya is over (as the modern scientific pundits  
> > > > speculate from their mathematics) -- the infinite new 
> universes  
> > > > (galaxies, solar systems, planets, bacteria, plants, animals, 
> > > humans,  
> > > > etc,) spring up everywhere in their time and place, like 
spray 
> in 
> > > an  
> > > > ocean of waves... "As above, so below' and."The  microcosm(s) 
> > (is/ 
> > > > are) the mirror(s) of the macrocosm" (as the ancient 
> philosopher/ 
> > > > scientist pundits say;-).
> > > > 
> > > > So, the cosmos (like every universe) and every composite 
form, 
> > or  
> > > > particle-wave in it, is a hologram -- within even larger 
> > holograms -
> > > -  
> > > > ad infinitum.  And, as the Buddhist and Vedic philosophers 
> > > say. "All  
> > > > is Maya" or illusion.  (But, this cannot be "scientific," 
even 
> > > though  
> > > > actual -- since conventional science can only deal with the 
> > > physical/ 
> > > > material or measurable universe).  So, what we need is a new  
> > > > scientific paradigm -- which we might call "philosophical 
> > science" 
> > > or  
> > > > "scientific philosophy" or maybe just plain "theosophy". ;-)
> > > > 
> > > > Best wishes,
> > > > Leon Maurer
> > > > http://canonizer.com/topic.asp/23/13 (NEW)
> > > > http://www.tellworld.com/Astro.Biological.Coenergetics/
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > On Dec 14, 2008, at 12/14/088:48 PM, Cass Silva wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Hi Leon
> > > > >
> > > > > Science has finally come around to what HPB said 100 years 
> > ago.   
> > > > > Still the problem remains - from where the previous 
universe 
> - 
> > I  
> > > > > guess Pralaya wouldn't explain it as it is a non-
scientific  
> > > > > concept.  Did HPB mention anything about conditions during 
> > > Pralaya?
> > > > >
> > > > > Cass
> > > > >
> > > > > ps  Just listened to a doco on Steven Hawking - he agrees 
> with  
> > > > > Greene's theory of multi-dimensional vibration strings 
> (rather 
> > > than  
> > > > > particles) and says it explains why gravity is weaker in 
our 
> 3  
> > > > > dimensions because it has travelled through 8 others.  They 
> > are  
> > > > > more or less stating that Quantum Mechanics explains 
gravity 
> at 
> > > the  
> > > > > quantum level ( at the smallest) and marries it with 
> Relativity 
> > > (at  
> > > > > the largest) and Hawkings Black Hole Theory
> > > > >
> > > > > If I understood it correctly they cannot explain what they 
> > call  
> > > > > 'the singularity' other than to say the symmetry was broken 
> and 
> > > are  
> > > > > now toying with the idea of universes not unlike particles, 
> > just  
> > > > > popping in and out of existence!   And this from the 
greatest 
> > > minds  
> > > > > of modern science.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cass
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > From: Leon Maurer <leonmaurer@>
> > > > > To: jcs-online Study forum <jcs-online@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, 14 December, 2008 6:09:51 PM
> > > > > Subject: Theos-World Did our cosmos exist before the big 
bang?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Did our cosmos exist before the big bang?
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.newscien tist.com/ article/mg200268 61.500-did- 
> our-
> > > cosmos-
> > > > > exist-before- the-big-bang. html?DCMP= NLC-nletter&  
> > > > > nsref=mg20026861 .500
> > > > >
> > > > > http://tinyurl. com/5tkvfb
> > > > >
> > > > > Very likely -- if the ABC fractal involved holographic 
field 
> > > model of
> > > > > periodic cosmogenesis is correct.
> > > > >
> > > > > Leon Maurer
> > > > > http://canonizer. com/topic. asp/23/13
> > > > > "Note: This canonizer topic ("HARD PROBLEM") enables us to 
> > > directly
> > > > > compare theories and models of consciousness and its 
> > > interconnections
> > > > > with mind, memory, brain, body, senses, etc.. If you agree 
> with 
> > > the
> > > > > ABC theory of cosmogenesis -- postulating consciousness as 
an 
> a
> > > > > priori quality of ubiquitous absolute space (or any other 
> > > reasonable
> > > > > theory) please feel free to sign on to add your support or, 
> if 
> > you
> > > > > have anything to add or contribute to the topic, or wish to 
> > post 
> > > your
> > > > > own theory, open a new sub-camp or camp statement."
> > > > > http://www.tellworl d.com/Astro. Biological. Coenergetics/
> > > > >
> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > > >
> > > > 
> > > > 
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> > > >
> > >
> >
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