Theos-Talk Archives (December 2008 Message tt00145)

Thanks Martin
I thought as much. 
Perhaps the times are a changin
Cass
http://www.watch.pair.com/cosmic2.html
PLANETARY SPIRITS
As the fourth wise man of Jay Gary's parable observed the heavens, according to the ancient custom of magi, he witnessed a rare astronomical sign -- the conjunction of Jupiter and Saturn. To disciples of the ancient mystery religions, each planet is governed by a planetary spirit. The concept of a personal God who is the Creator and Ruler of all is held in contempt and a hierarchy of planetary gods thought to rule the solar system. H.P. Blavatsky wrote of these spirits in her Theosophical Glossary: 
"As our earth has its hierarchy of terrestrial planetary spirits, so has every other heavenly body. The highest planetary spirit ruling over any globe is in reality the âPersonal Godâ of that planet and far more truly its âover-ruling providence' than the self-congratulatory Infinite Personal Deity of modern Churchianity." 84.
Michael Howard, author of The Occult Conspiracy states that in classical Greek and Roman mythology, the planets were thought to be heavenly representations of the gods after whom they were named: 
"...the Gnostics derived some of their lore from the stellar religion practiced by the Chaldean astrologers. They adopted the seven planetary spirits or gods... represented by the classical gods of Roman and Greek mythology -- Mercury (Hermes), Venus (Aphrodite), Mars (Aries), Jupiter (Zeus), Saturn (Chronos), Sol and Luna. 85.
When author/astrologer Rick Levine explained that a conjunction of Jupiter and Saturn in 7-6 B.C. in the zodiacal sign of Pisces "created" the Star of Bethlehem, he wrote in terms of the "signature of the King's Star" (Jupiter) and "the star of final authority" (Saturn), as though these planets possessed governing providences or gods: 
"The greatest planetary rhythm that was observable to the ancient astronomer- priest was the rhythm of the Jupiter/Saturn conjunction... The Jupiter/Saturn conjunction...actually jumps from astrological sign to sign with great regularity... It is the combination of astrologically rare events that created the Star of Bethlehem.
"There is much evidence to suggest that what we call the Star of David was an alignment of the giant planets Jupiter and Saturn. In ancient Jewish tradition, Jupiter was the planet called the âKingâs Star.â Even later in Greek mythology, Jupiter, or Jove, was the King of the Gods. Every 20 years, when the Kingâs Star lined up with Saturn, the star of final authority, the ancient Jews called this the Star of David." 86.
The Star of David is not a Jewish symbol, but an Egyptian symbol which Israel adopted in the wilderness during the first apostasy. (Acts 7:37-43; Amos 5:26) O.J. Graham wrote in The Six Pointed Star: "The Universal Jewish Encyclopedia declares that the six-pointed star...according to the Rosicrucians...was known to the ancient Egyptians." Dr. Albert Churchward identified the six-pointed star as the symbol of Horus in Signs & Symbols of Primordial Man: 
"In the Astro-Mythology of the Egyptians, we find belief in the first man-god (Horus I)...and his death and resurrection as Amsu...This was the first sign or hieroglyphic of Amsu...Amsu - the risen Horus - the first man-god risen in spiritual form." 87.
It becomes apparent that, like the Lubavitch Movement, Rick Levine has derived his theology from the Kabalah, the primary source book of Jewish mysticism which is an extension of the Babylonian mysteries. Nowhere is the Star of David found in the orthodox Hebrew Scriptures, except as a pagan symbol, nor do the prophets foretell its appearance at the birth of the Messiah. Mr. Levine acknowledges that the Messiah must be born of the lineage of David, however he chooses to ignore the vast number of other Messianic prophecies which were fulfilled at the birth of Jesus Christ. Rather he claims that an occult symbol and an astrological sign were used to validate the credentials of "the Christ" in the "age of Pisces." 
"Christ is a Greek word for king. A king was one who was literally born under the cosmic signature of the Kingâs Star. Jesus, as we know, was born in the lineage of the House of David. But to be born in the lineage of David didnât only mean that you had parents in that lineage. It also meant that you were born under the Star of David, which occurred when Jupiter, the King âs Star, aligned with Saturn...there was, in fact, a triple conjunction of Jupiter and Saturn, in the sign of Pisces, in the years 7-6 BC." 88.
This New Age author then informs readers that, just as Jesus was the man chosen to be Christ for the age of Pisces, mankind is about to enter a new astrological sign which will inaugurate a new age. Due to the Precession of the Equinox, the next Jupiter/Saturn triple conjunction will take place in the sign of Aquarius in May of A.D. 2000, at which time Mr. Levine believes many will be reborn as "Christ." Note Levine's misrepresentation of the Lord's Prayer to justify the Masonic axiom "as above, so below." (Luke 11:2 states: "Thy will be done, as in heaven, so in earth.") 
ÂÂÂ "For the last couple of thousand years, the North Pole of the Earth has been pointing to that area in the sky we call Pisces. This means that, astrologically, we have been in the Age of Pisces, or the Age of the Fish! Note the connections between the fish and Christianity. Christ was a fisher among men. The vesica Pisces, the vessel of the soul, became a symbol for the church. Fish represents the apparent multiplicity, and in the Age of the Fish, it was reserved for the religious mystic to see how all the individual fishes are, in truth, one.
ÂÂÂ "In these times, we have talk now of another new age, The Age of Aquarius. Because the equinox slips backwards, it goes from Pisces to Aquarius, rather than Aries. It is the resonance between the changing of the ages two thousand years ago, and the changing of the ages in modern times that captures our attention as this story unfolds...
ÂÂÂ "The story of the Star of Bethlehem tells us that cosmic alignments herald earthly events. The Lordâs Prayer tells us that "it is done on earth as it is in heaven." The words are clear even if we, in our scientific mindset, shirk from the true meaning. Ancient prophecy was often astrological.
ÂÂÂ "What will the stars of the late 20th Century mean to the big historical picture? What will these times bring? The Christmas Star brings us an answer, or at least a perspective. Even if we were alive during the ministry of Jesus and were personally touched by his spiritual magic, we could not, in our wildest imagination, have predicted what was to follow. By the same token, even if we accept that these are times of great proportion, and that we are at the edge of a new world, we cannot know what is around the bend of history." 89.Â
TIMES & LAWS
As previously noted, in classical mythology Jupiter is thought to be Zeus, King of the gods, and Saturn is Chronos, the god of Time. The reference to Jupiter as Zeus correlates with astrologer Rick Levineâs identification of this planet as the King Star, Zeus being the king of the gods. Levine calls Saturn "the star of final authority," a title which has in it the element of time and the end of an age. However, H.P. Blavatsky and Michael Howard more precisely identify Saturn as Kronos, "The God of Boundless Time and of the Cycles." 
We have seen that there is a plan afoot to change the laws of mankind, replacing the commandments of all religions with the seven Noahide Laws. The planetary spirit that would be evoked to enforce these laws would naturally be Zeus, the king of gods, who represents the planet Jupiter, the King Star. There is, in fact, an abrupt transition to a new system of laws prophesied in Daniel 7:25, which verse also foretells a change of the times under the rule of Antichrist. 
And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws...
Saturn or Chronos, the god of Time and Cycles will be in charge of the administration of the New Age under a new calendar. The opportune time for this transition would logically be the true beginning of the new millennium which, according to the Greenwich 2000: Millennium website, "officially starts on 1 January 2001 (there was no year 0)." 90.
The motto of 33rd degree Freemasonry is "ordo ab chao," which transliterated means that a new social order will come about through the destruction of the old order. The planetary god of Saturn is characterized in astrology as one that brings suffering. Vera Alder stated as much in her book, The Initiation of the World: 
"Pain and pressure are born upon this planet ...from the planet Saturn." 91.
According to the Masonic principle "Ordo ab Chao," Saturn or Chronos will produce massive upheaval of the old order and Jupiter, the King Star or Zeus, will restore social order under a new system of law. In The Illuminati Formula, Fritz Springmeier amplifies Alderâs model of Saturnian severity as the cosmic force, which will merge with Jupiter to create the Golden Age of Saturn: 
"...the religion of Saturn is Saturnian gnosis - which turns out to be a rehash of the gnosticism that the high level Satanists believe in. Saturn is severe. Jupiter is mild. The merging of Saturn (severity) with Jupiter is the creation of the new Golden Age -- according to high level Satanic hierarchy teachings." 92.
According to the schedule of bimillennial events, the Christmas celebrations will commence with a reenactment of the Journey of the Magi, leaving Iraq on September 1, 2000 and arriving in Bethlehem on December 24, 2000. 93. The month of December will be devoted to global Christmas celebrations as the modern Magi arrive in Bethlehem bearing "treasures" of a lost civilization. Perhaps the Noahide Laws will replace the Ten Commandments and the U.N. will officially assume its position as a world government as of January 1, 2001.




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From: Martin <Mvandertak@yahoo.com>
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, 10 December, 2008 11:30:52 AM
Subject: Re: Theos-World Riots in Greece


Cass:

http://theirishbull etin.blogspot. com/2008/ 12/what-are- greek-riots- really-about. html

--- On Wed, 12/10/08, Cass Silva <silva_cass@yahoo. com> wrote:
From: Cass Silva <silva_cass@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: Theos-World Riots in Greece
To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
Date: Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 1:17 AM

Erica, what is the cause of all this. News Reports here say it is in retaliation to the shooting of a 15 year old boy by the Police. Does it go deeper than that - are police become fascist?

Cass

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From: Erica Letzerich <eletzerich@ yahoo. com>

To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com

Sent: Wednesday, 10 December, 2008 1:42:38 AM

Subject: Theos-World Riots in Greece

Dear friends,

The situation here is quite critical. We had to cancel the meetings of the lodges until wednesday (and maybe until the end of the week). I jsut hope the anarquists wont set fire in the headquarters of the ts here (as is located in the heart of Athens). So many shops, cars buldings and residences destroyed. All the streets empty, people are afraid to go out. 

Still I had some work to do on the T.S. so I was there Monday very early in the morning, but left 10:30 am, as I was informed that protests would break out in Athens again. I really never saw something like this. Some people believe the government will fall. Probably they will call for elections in order to try to control the situation, so far rumours that Greece will enter a state of emergency is denied by the government. 

The impression that all this situation gives for the people, is the absence of a government. The streets were literaly left on the hands of the anarquists, with few police officers trying to control the situation. I just feel sorry for all the people who in such difficult economical period lost their shops, cars and many also houses. But mostly I feel very sorry for Alexandros, who was only 15 years old, and was murdered in such brutal way.

Erica

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