Theos-Talk Archives (December 2008 Message tt00144)

Can anyone translate this?
Cass
Bis duo sunt hominis;
manes, caro, spiritus, umbra 
ÂÂÂÂÂQuatuor ista loca bis duo suscipiunt. 
ÂÂÂÂÂTerra tegit carnem, tumulum circumvolat umbra, 
ÂÂÂÂÂOrcus habet manes, spiritus estra petit.




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From: Martin <Mvandertak@yahoo.com>
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, 10 December, 2008 10:43:34 AM
Subject: Re: Theos-World Dugpas & Shammars - Commentary by Master KH


Check this thread on godlikeproductions by the admin/sysop:

http://www.godlikep roductions. com/forum1/ message680278/ pg1

--- On Wed, 12/10/08, Cass Silva <silva_cass@yahoo. com> wrote:
From: Cass Silva <silva_cass@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: Theos-World Dugpas & Shammars - Commentary by Master KH
To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
Date: Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 12:31 AM

What are you suggesting MKR - an exorcism?

Cass

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From: MKR <mkr777@gmail. com>

To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com; theos-l@yahoogroups .com

Sent: Tuesday, 9 December, 2008 3:34:59 PM

Subject: Theos-World Dugpas & Shammars - Commentary by Master KH

As anyone who has been following the events surrounding the TS since last

December, can easily see why there is a serious crisis facing the future of

TS and Theosophy. This crisis is perhaps the most serious in our life times

and is not unlike the Coloumb crisis. Whenever there is a crisis, we all can

see the hidden hand of the Dugpas and Shammars. They have been bent on the

destruction of TS from the early days of TS. Some time ago, I posted a short

message listing some factors to keep in mind to avoid our becoming their

agents unknown to ourselves because their agents would be deluded to believe

they are doing good to the TS and theosophy.

I am quoting below some of the Commentaries by Master KH on the subject of

Dugpas and Shammars.

"It is impossible to worship both sides, - the male and female of nature, -

at once; one or the other must predominate. Only by following the absolute,

sexless Unity, can the white path be trodden. Hence the necessity for

chastity. The occult and the physical must never be mixed up. It is

absolutely necessary to concentrate on one or the other. The tendency

naturally is to Black Magic, and that is why several years of training are

necessary to cut away every sort of prejudice before power can be entrusted

to you. Before you can become an occultist you have to give up every

prejudice, every liking, every feeling of preference for one thing or

another. The adept must entirely separate himself from his personality. He

must say, I am a power! It is easy to fall into Black Magic. A black

magician prepares to do mischief without giving a thought to whether it will

harm others. He is essentially selfish, for he works for a thing he

personally loves. Apparent unselfishness may be really selfishness. A deed

of kindness done with partiality may become evil, viz., by stirring up

animosity in the minds of others. It is necessary when acting to lose all

sense of identity and become an abstract power. There is good and evil in

every point in the universe, and if one works however indirectly for one's

own partiality, one becomes to that extent a black magician. The opposite of

Justice is partiality. When a man uses the powers of Nature

indiscriminatingly, with partiality, and with no regard to justice, it is

Black Magic. But to help a sick person is not Black Magic, but no personal

preference must guide you. Like a blackleg, a black magician acts on certain

knowledge. Magic is power over the forces of nature, viz., the Salvation

Army by hypnotizing people and making them psychically drunk with

excitement, is Black Magic. Bismarck and Beaconsfield are types of black

magicians.

On the astral and psychic planes the Masters are always stronger than the

Dugpas, because there, good is stronger than evil. But on our material

plane, evil is stronger than good, and the Adepts having to exercise cunning

if acting on this plane, (which is contrary to their natures) encounter

great difficulty and can only palliate evil effects. In powers not good

there is an absence of good, but not presence of evil, and the higher you

go, the more does evil become the absence of good. The first exercise of

Dugpaship is to psychologize people. Every man has a potential Dugpa in him.

When the 6th Race reaches its close, there will be no more Dugpas. A Dugpa

may become converted during life, at the expense of terrible suffering and

trials. Dugpas are usually destroyed by Kundalini, the astral fire. They

consume themselves. The Dugpa is forced to his own destruction. He becomes

fascinated, runs into the evil current and so destroys himself. The beasts

of Dugpas have nothing but the animal in them, and even when they awaken the

highest spirituality in them, it is the spirituality of the beast where

there is nothing but vile, selfish instinct. On earth there is no evil power

higher than the Dugpas. They cannot when seen psychically conceal the

presence of red about them. It is always visible in their aura. The color is

deep crimson red. The sign of the presence of a Dugpa is a cold, clammy,

empty, snaky feeling. Do not mistake the above for another feeling, viz.,

when chelas materialize they create a vacuum around them, which feels to us

like a change of atmosphere, like being suddenly removed to a high plateau

in Thibet. (The one a dry cold like high atmosphere, the other clammy)."

MKR

THERE IS NO RELIGION HIGHER THAN TRUTH

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