Theos-Talk Archives (November 2008 Message tt00060)

John,

Once I heard a commentary that Dalai Lama should organize his 
Government in exile on democratic principles, so that it could become 
appropriate party in talks with other governments, with that of China 
included. As spiritual leader he simply was not in a position to 
efficiently help Tibetan people on the political level. In addition, 
China is huge country and probably already one of the leading 
economic powers, so that Tibetan fight for autonomy is probably 
really lost. But it is really sad to see how additional unnecessary 
pain is imposed to ordinary people while some wolves are rejoicing. 

Warmest regards,
Anton


--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Augoeides-222@... wrote:
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> Anton,
>     Interesting, I've never heard of "Shugden" until I viewed the 
video, so I learnt something worth knowing, thanks. These types of 
things are basically a traditon that can be found in most Religions. 
The Nicene Library of the Early Church Fathers teams with the 
polemics against the Gnostic of all types, and today there are a 
plethora of individualized Christian sects.. In Islam mainstream 
adherents refuse to sanctify the Sufi, and of course there is huge 
historic divisive separation between the Sunni and the Shiite. In 
Judaism there are the Traditional and the Reform branches. Buddhism 
has the Hinayana and Mahayana, the Tibetan branch and others. This 
isn't the first time a Dalai Lama repressed a non-Gelugpa sect in 
Tibet if you have read the origins. Declaring anathema is a tradition 
in religions lol!
> 
>    I don't have a lot of enthusiasm for beating a dead horse 
(Tibetan Tibet). a couple years ago the Dalai Lama announced to the 
world that he recognized the Legal possession of Tibet by China and 
that Tibet is now irrevocably and inseparably Chinese. I was 
astonished  to hear him do this. I oppose the China expansionist  
grab of Tibet based upon the marriage of a Chinese Princess to the 
Monarch of Tibet many centuries ago. The Dalai Lama after recognizing 
Tibet is China now campaigned for "autonamous self rule" by 
Tibetans "under" Chinese Rule. The Chinese refused and instead using 
a most popular tactic that the Soviets used with success began 
repopulating Tibet with Han Chinese, soon the Tibetans will be a 
minority in their former country. The Dalai Lama made his 
capitulation  in regards to his former country from the podium of the 
United Nations. The United Nations formally recognizes that Tibet is 
now China. Most nations also do the same. The USA also recognizes 
Tibet is China 
> now. Go on Google Earth and enter "Tibet" you will not go there, 
there is no border of Tibet any more only the Chinese expanded 
border. look and recent world maps there is no Tibet anymore to be 
found on them. Buy a World Almanac where is Tibet? It is very sad to 
me personally. But reality and the facts are indisputable.
> 
>  The Soviet transferred russian populations  to Ukriane, Georgia 
and many other states that were under thier hand and it is a 
continueing friction remaining now as seen on the stage of the world.
> 
>  The Chinese are doing the same thing in regard to Taiwan 
(Formosa), China never actually claimed Taiwan  at any time during 
all the Dynasties of China, the Island was occupied by aboriginals 
and pirates and thiefs for tyhe entire history of China and no 
Emporer dared to attempt to occupy it due to the  large dangerous 
population. Only when Mao came did China claim Taiwan was part of 
China. And the world beleived him.
> 
> Regards,
> John 
> 
> -------------- Original message -------------- 
> From: "Anton Rozman" <anton_rozman@...> 
> Dear friends,
> 
> Here is an article about latest Dalai Lama's statements:
> http://in.reuters.com/article/topNews/idINIndia-36157220081026
> 
> Clarifications on H.H. the Dalai Lama's Remarks
> http://www.dalailama.com/news.300.htm
> 
> It seems that this is a reaction to what seems to be an 
orchestrated 
> attack on his authority in last months:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_ykbVSyxyA
> 
> Best regards,
> Anton
> 
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