Re: Theos-World British MPs back animal-human embryo research
Nov 01, 2008 08:03 AM
by Anton Rozman
Dear Morten and all,
Here is an interview about the influence of released information on
the public from the perspective of one of the bestselling novelists
Whitley Streiber:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYuGRLfn2tU
And here a piece of suppressed technology:
http://isaaccaret.fortunecity.com/
Warmest regards,
Anton
--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Morten Nymann Olesen" <global-
theosophy@...> wrote:
>
> Thank you for your answer.
>
> Anton wrote:
> "They are for sure acquainted with the latest fashion."
>
> LOL.
>
>
> Have any of you tried:
> "ET Contact: Dr. Steven Greer Pt.1 - Pt.12"
> (12 short videos with an Interview about Steven Greer's giving his
own biography and work. His out-of-body-experiences as well as zero-
point energy talks etc. etc.) ?
> www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0aw64jvyF0
> or
www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/9801/ET_Contact__Dr__Steven_Greer_Pt_
1/
>
>
> Or his book: "Hidden Truth - Forbidden Knowledge" ?
>
> Is he really a theosophist or working for the masters?
>
> M. Sufilight
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Anton Rozman
> To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 9:23 AM
> Subject: Re: Theos-World British MPs back animal-human embryo
research
>
>
> Thanks John,
>
> Good footages. I already see the last one as Aviano is only about
150
> km from my home. In the period February-April 1997 there were
more
> then 150 sightings in that area. This footage from July 1997 was
sent
> anonymously to ufo specialist, professor Chiumento. He comments
on
> the TV - below link
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBJNqwe6LHY
>
> that it is too clear to be true and that in such circumstances
> interviews with witnesses are most important confirmation act of
> authenticity. There are rumors that it was done by Italian
military
> to actually cover up the real activity there. And as this video
was
> very much promoted on Silvio Berlusconi's TV "Italia Uno" these
> rumors are probably true.
>
> There are a lot of NASA footages made by Shuttle outside earth
> atmosphere and one can see that there is almost such traffic as
on
> the Frankfurt airport.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0jpUPLqLhA
>
> Therefore theosophical perspective of Mahatmas as still wearing
> turbans and living in Tibetan valley is from my perspective a
little
> outdated. They are for sure acquainted with the latest fashion.
>
> And Morten, yes, UN would be most probably the best place for the
> Disclosure.
>
> Warmest regards,
> Anton
>
> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Augoeides-222@ wrote:
> >
> > Morten, Anton,
> > Well I think a short frolic in the sudsy giddy realm of UFO's
> and such might be in order in regard to recent comments so I here
> post three excellent UFO Video's for perusal 1 Italian and 2
Turkish:
> >
> > Rize' deki Shapshifter forest UFO Turkey
> >
> > >>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5W3buftf9o<<<
> >
> > Sirius UFO Center Video Turkey (you may use the "magnifier" at
the
> bottom right corner on the Windows Taskbar to enlarge to 200 %
and it
> will not interfere with the Video play)
> >
> > >>>http://www.siriusufo.org/tr/?
> fx=sayfa_ac&url=html/english/kumburgaz_2008.asp<<<
> >
> > Italian River UFO (this possibly man made Technology object was
not
> far from Aviano AFB where the USA has a large presence)
> >
> > >>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdyQu5Zx8xw&feature=related<<<
> >
> > Enjoy, regards,
> > John
> >
> >
> > -------------- Original message --------------
> > From: "Morten Nymann Olesen" <global-theosophy@>
> > Dear Anton and all readers
> >
> > My views are:
> >
> > The issue Extra Sensory Perception (clairvoyance, telepathy,
> precognition etc.)
> > seem quite often to be the most important one to tackle when
one
> deals with Ufos, aliens and various socalled governmental
projects.
> >
> > I said in the earlier email:
> > Saying that no people at all in power structures like
political,
> military, security agencies, journalism etc etc. are not
seriously
> considering the possiblity of extrasensory perception
(clairvoyance,
> telepathy, precognition etc.) being something actual and REAL is
of
> course wrong.
> >
> > This leads to the question:
> > Why are not more leaders in the power structure coming - more -
> forward about this quite - important issue?
> > (The United Nations could be a good place to start.) Important
> because of various reasons. There are what some will
call "security
> issues" involved. There are the huge the shift in thought
patterns to
> concider among politicians, journalists, and people in general if
> this issue should prove it self to be true. And when we know,
that a
> great percentage of this planets population - especially in
western
> countries - are interested in the subject, the questions seem
quite
> natural to forward. I believe that in the spiritual countries
India
> and Tibet they find Extra Sensory Perception to be as natural as
> breathing the air.
> >
> > As long as various governments and countries for years have
been
> funding projects to research the issue, the question seem to be
of
> importance.
> > We know, that a Dog for instances can smell and hear on a
level,
> ordinary humans cannot.
> > We have microscopes, telescopes, radio telescopes (SETI),
hearing
> aids, glasses etc. We know, that various animals very easily can
find
> their way home when compared to humans stranded in the wild. We
know,
> that a great number of species never kill each other and that
they
> are peaceful vegetarians, who are not polluting the planet.
> >
> > M. Sufilight
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Anton Rozman
> > To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 12:14 PM
> > Subject: Re: Theos-World British MPs back animal-human embryo
> research
> >
> > >So why are they - so very much - reluctant in using time on
the
> > issue except because of religious reasons - known as the Bible
and
> > fanatical views or egotism?<
> >
> > Dear Morten,
> >
> > I don't know if I fully understand your question. It is now
known
> > that intelligence community and still more secret agencies
around
> the
> > world ran several secret projects on these topics and that
findings
> > were and are amply used in various fields mainly to present to
the
> > people a reality they want that people see. You can not expect
that
> > they will come forward saying: We are fooling you!
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Anton
> >
> > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Morten Nymann Olesen"
<global-
> > theosophy@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Dear Anton
> > >
> > >
> > > My views are:
> > >
> > > Anton wrote:
> > > "I wonder what impact has these stories on the
> > > American public. "
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks. I find this to be a good question.
> > >
> > > Saying that no people at all in power structures like
political,
> > military, security agencies, journalism etc etc. are not
seriously
> > considering the possiblity of extrasensory perception
> (clairvoyance,
> > telepathy, precognition etc.) being something actual and REAL
is of
> > course wrong. So why are they - so very much - reluctant in
using
> > time on the issue except because of religious reasons - known
as
> the
> > Bible and fanatical views or egotism?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > M. Sufilight
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Anton Rozman
> > > To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 7:13 AM
> > > Subject: Re: Theos-World British MPs back animal-human embryo
> > research
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi John,
> > >
> > > It seems that Dr. Greer has somehow stopped his activity as I
> > don't
> > > see any new things on Disclosure Project web site for a long
> > time.
> > >
> > > Governments in Europe and Russia are now disclosing
classified
> > > documents but it seems that USA have developed most advanced
> > projects
> > > out of contacts. And I think that the most important aspect
of
> > this
> > > whole story is suppressed technology. It would radically
change
> > the
> > > world. There are rumors that it will be gradually realesed in
> > next
> > > years.
> > >
> > > I have heard some interviews on Coasttocoast and time to time
I
> > visit
> > > the web site and I wonder what impact has these stories on
the
> > > American public.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Anton
> > >
> > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Augoeides-222@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Anton,
> > > > Yes, I am well aware of the topic of governmental secrecy
> > having
> > > had a interest as well as experience for decades here in the
USA
> > as
> > > regards UFO and Paranormal events. In one TV Production I
made I
> > used
> > > the Magic Papers in certain parts just to expose people to it
who
> > > would view the program. Dr. Steven Greer worked for years to
> > > assemble a large congregation of Military, Scientists,
> > > Professionals, Airline Pilots and many Witnesses. His
objective
> > was
> > > to have our Congress open Hearings and give serious review of
the
> > > assembled evidences. The problem is that it will it seems
never
> > > happen. As long as a certain Senator Orrin Hatch of the State
of
> > Utah
> > > Chairs the Justice Committee in the U. S. Senate. he
adamantly
> > > refuses to even entertain the proposal and even said "Over my
> > dead
> > > body" before it will happen! That was more than a decade ago
and
> > he
> > > is still in Office.
> > > >
> > > > In our lower body, the House I think a single Hearing did
take
> > > place many years ago to no avail of the cause of openness and
> > > honesty in regards to UFO's. Several major Politicians did
> > attempt to
> > > find the truth about government withholding of information.
Sen.
> > > Barry Goldwater of Arizona holding strong Chairmanship in the
> > Senate
> > > even went to Wright-Patterson AFB and was repelled at gun
point
> > when
> > > he insisted upon entering the legendary Hangar 18. President
> > Jimmy
> > > Carter made public promise to do all he could do to get the
> > > information made public. He was instructed he did not possess
> > > the "Need to Know" and had insufficient clearance to allow
him to
> > be
> > > briefed on what they denied they had.
> > > > And Area 51and all the rumors cannot be placed in the open
> > > sunshine.
> > > >
> > > > Probably the most listened to radio talk on UFO comes from
> > > http://coasttocoastam.com which has a listenership of about
40
> > > million each night. 7 days a week. Much of it isaboutr UFO's,
> > > Experiencers, Paramormal and many other unique subjects with
a
> > > plethora of popular guests. Tonight 10-24-08 the Guest Host
for
> > the
> > > Program is Whitley Streiber who wrote the famous
> > book "Communion."
> > > It was the vehicle for his own personal experiance with the
> > > extraterrestials.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > John
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > usa as regards ufo
> > > >
> > > > -------------- Original message --------------
> > > > From: "Anton Rozman" <anton_rozman@>
> > > > Hi John,
> > > >
> > > > Thank you very much for your views.
> > > >
> > > > In my opinion the key information here is that there exists
one
> > > > another reality which was purposely hidden from us by our
> > > governments
> > > > and controlled agencies and media. So, it is up to
courageous
> > > > insiders to provide us their perspective on what is really
> > going
> > > on,
> > > > while it is up to each of us to form our own understanding
> > > comparing
> > > > various sources. It is really good training to keep one's
mind
> > open.
> > > >
> > > > You can find inteviews with very reliable people on:
> > > > http://www.projectcamelot.org/
> > > >
> > > > But, in my view, even more important message for us as
> > theosophists
> > > > in this interview is that there are going on important
changes
> > on
> > > > this world and that we can largely contribute that the
passage
> > will
> > > > be less painful and more peaceful. If we will be able to
solve
> > our
> > > > inner disagreements in a fraternal, constructive and
innovative
> > > > manner we will do our best service to the humanity.
> > > >
> > > > Warmest regards,
> > > > Anton
> > > >
> > > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Augoeides-222@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Anton
> > > > > Well Bob Dean is a relatively respected personage in the
UFO
> > > > Arena but I can't see the basis for Nibiru as he speaks of
it
> > in
> > > > present time. There are so many Astronomical Observatory's
in
> > many
> > > > different nations, some of which would not necessarily
squash
> > > > knowledge of the presence of Niburu as related by Bob Dean
and
> > > would
> > > > surely make public announcement.
> > > > > There is according to Paval Smutny a former NASA Space
> > > > Scientist, who specialized in Deep Space Communication and
> > Orbital
> > > > Mechanics as his primary NASA work an ancient record that
> > describes
> > > > it. He, in his personal studies relates a history of Nibiru
> > > > (Nemesis, Phaeton, 12th Planet etc.) where it only makes a
> > close
> > > > approach proximate to the Earth a small number of times in
> > every
> > > > Solar Year (25,920 Years ( or 1 Cycle of the
Constellational
> > > Zodiac).
> > > > Pavel Smutny now lives in Slovakia if I recall correctly.
If
> > you
> > > > Google his name you will find his several websites that
related
> > his
> > > > findings in regard to Nibiru. Also Google Dendara and the
> > Senmut
> > > > Temple, and The Darmer Pallete. In his description he
extracts
> > from
> > > > the Egyptian record the approach , path and periodocity of
the
> > 12th
> > > > Planet. He has, in my view one of the most interesting
study to
> > > show
> > > > actual 12th Planet supported by alledged knowledge of the
> > ancients
> > > > which he thoroughly diagrammatically presents on his
webpages.
> > > > >
> > > > > I in my own view, have entertained a possibility that the
> > 12th
> > > > Planet may have made close approach during the second
middle
> > period
> > > > of Tiahuanacu (15,450 BC ) as Bellamy and Allen have shown
the
> > > > catastrophic record of the passage engravened upon the
andesite
> > > > artifacts of Tiahuanacu. This occasion set in the mind of
man a
> > > > subconscious memory of the traumatic terror that prevailed
> > > > consequential to the passage and capture of one of the 12th
> > Planets
> > > > Minor satellites and it's eventual disintetagration and
rain of
> > > it's
> > > > pieces on the earth and is portrayed as the celestial
dragon
> > > belching
> > > > fire and brimstone in the sky. The story of Osiris's battle
> > with
> > > > Typhon (the forces of space) and his being dismembered and
his
> > body
> > > > parts scattered on the earth, with the lamenting Isis
unable to
> > > find
> > > > his "organ" of regeneration (the core of the minor
satellite
> > the
> > > fled
> > > > into space when relieved of it's outer shells during the
> > > catastrophe.
> > > > Osiris was a Lunar Diety figure of the Egyptians..
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > John
> > > > >
> > > > > PS: Thanks for the Bob Dean links for his interview
videos.
> > > > > -------------- Original message --------------
> > > > > From: "Anton Rozman" <anton_rozman@>
> > > > > Hi all,
> > > > >
> > > > > Maybe here is a little bigger picture:
> > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbgHyrmgRZM
> > > > >
> > > > > Best regards,
> > > > > Anton
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Cass Silva
<silva_cass@>
> > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Also it will prove that we are the ancestors of the
apes
> > and
> > > not
> > > > > the other way around - can you expand on the heliosphere
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cass
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > > From: Martin <Mvandertak@>
> > > > > > To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, 23 October, 2008 7:03:37 PM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Theos-World British MPs back animal-human
> > embryo
> > > > > research
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I wonder if the Solar Lords will dig this, they didn't
in
> > > > > Atlantis...the sun is btw very quiet at the moment and
its
> > > > > heliosphere has shrunk more than 25% the last 25
years...this
> > > could
> > > > > mean part destruction of this earth by cosmic fire.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- On Thu, 10/23/08, nhcareyta <nhcareyta@yahoo.
com.au>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > From: nhcareyta <nhcareyta@yahoo. com.au>
> > > > > > Subject: Theos-World British MPs back animal-human
embryo
> > > research
> > > > > > To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
> > > > > > Date: Thursday, October 23, 2008, 4:49 AM
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Britain's lower house of parliament has approved
> > legislation
> > > > > allowing
> > > > > >
> > > > > > scientists to create animal-human embryos for medical
> > research,
> > > > in
> > > > > >
> > > > > > the biggest shake-up of embryology laws in two decades.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Despite opposition from religious and pro-life groups,
MPs
> > in
> > > the
> > > > > >
> > > > > > House of Commons today backed the Human Embryology and
> > > > > Fertilisation
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Bill by 355 votes to 129.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It will now go to a vote in the House of Lords, and
could
> > be
> > > law
> > > > by
> > > > > >
> > > > > > November.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The wide-ranging bill, which has been debated for
months,
> > would
> > > > > also
> > > > > >
> > > > > > allow "saviour siblings" - children created as a close
> > genetic
> > > > > match
> > > > > >
> > > > > > for a sick brother or sister so their genetic material
can
> > help
> > > > > treat
> > > > > >
> > > > > > them.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In addition, it gives lesbians and single women easier
> > access
> > > to
> > > > in-
> > > > > >
> > > > > > vitro fertilisation (IVF) treatment by removing
> > requirements
> > > for
> > > > > >
> > > > > > clinics to consider a child's need for a father.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Health Minister Dawn Primarolo told MPs the bill was
about
> > > > helping
> > > > > >
> > > > > > the one in seven couples who needed fertility
assistance,
> > and
> > > > about
> > > > > >
> > > > > > research to deal with diseases such as Alzheimer's,
which
> > > affects
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 350,000 Britons.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hybrid embryos, created by inserting the nuclei of a
human
> > cell
> > > > > into
> > > > > >
> > > > > > an animal egg, can ensure a more plentiful supply of
stem
> > cells
> > > > for
> > > > > >
> > > > > > use in research into treating conditions like
Alzheimer's
> > and
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Parkinson's.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "It is about research to deal with the dreadful
diseases
> > and
> > > the
> > > > > >
> > > > > > debilitating attacks on their health from which many in
our
> > > > society
> > > > > >
> > > > > > suffer," the minister told MPs.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "The bill is about combining science with an ethical
> > framework
> > > > that
> > > > > >
> > > > > > works on behalf of humankind."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Prime Minister Gordon Brown is a strong defender of the
> > > measures,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > saying Britain owes it to future generations. His son
> > Fraser
> > > has
> > > > > >
> > > > > > cystic fibrosis, a disease that could one day benefit
from
> > > embryo
> > > > > >
> > > > > > research.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > However, 16 MPs from his ruling Labour party, including
> > former
> > > > > >
> > > > > > minister Ruth Kelly, a staunch Catholic who quit the
> > government
> > > > > this
> > > > > >
> > > > > > month, voted against the bill and religious groups
warned
> > it
> > > was
> > > > > the
> > > > > >
> > > > > > next step on a "slippery slope".
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Nadine Dorries, a member of the opposition Conservative
> > Party,
> > > > told
> > > > > >
> > > > > > her fellow MPs that loopholes in the legislation raised
the
> > > > > >
> > > > > > possibility of scientists attempting cross-breeding
between
> > > > humans
> > > > > >
> > > > > > and animals.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Of all the experimental possibilities debated in the
> > course of
> > > > > this
> > > > > >
> > > > > > bill, surely none is quite so utterly repulsive as the
> > > > possibility
> > > > > of
> > > > > >
> > > > > > seeking to inseminate animals with human sperm," she
said.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The debate was overshadowed by complaints from all
sides
> > that
> > > the
> > > > > >
> > > > > > government had blocked a discussion on reforming the
> > abortion
> > > > laws.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ministers suggested they did not think the current bill
was
> > the
> > > > > right
> > > > > >
> > > > > > time to do this.
> > > > > >
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