Theos-Talk Archives (October 2008 Message tt00846)

Dear Anton


My views are:

Anton wrote:
"I wonder what impact has these stories on the 
American public. "


Thanks. I find this to be a good question.

Saying that no people at all in power structures like political, military, security agencies, journalism etc etc. are not seriously considering the possiblity of extrasensory perception (clairvoyance, telepathy, precognition etc.) being something actual and REAL is of course wrong. So why are they - so very much - reluctant in using time on the issue except because of religious reasons - known as the Bible and fanatical views or egotism?



M. Sufilight


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Anton Rozman 
  To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 7:13 AM
  Subject: Re: Theos-World British MPs back animal-human embryo research


  Hi John,

  It seems that Dr. Greer has somehow stopped his activity as I don't 
  see any new things on Disclosure Project web site for a long time. 

  Governments in Europe and Russia are now disclosing classified 
  documents but it seems that USA have developed most advanced projects 
  out of contacts. And I think that the most important aspect of this 
  whole story is suppressed technology. It would radically change the 
  world. There are rumors that it will be gradually realesed in next 
  years.

  I have heard some interviews on Coasttocoast and time to time I visit 
  the web site and I wonder what impact has these stories on the 
  American public. 

  Thanks,
  Anton

  --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Augoeides-222@... wrote:
  >
  > Anton,
  > Yes, I am well aware of the topic of governmental secrecy having 
  had a interest as well as experience for decades here in the USA as 
  regards UFO and Paranormal events. In one TV Production I made I used 
  the Magic Papers in certain parts just to expose people to it who 
  would view the program. Dr. Steven Greer worked for years to 
  assemble a large congregation of Military, Scientists, 
  Professionals, Airline Pilots and many Witnesses. His objective was 
  to have our Congress open Hearings and give serious review of the 
  assembled evidences. The problem is that it will it seems never 
  happen. As long as a certain Senator Orrin Hatch of the State of Utah 
  Chairs the Justice Committee in the U. S. Senate. he adamantly 
  refuses to even entertain the proposal and even said "Over my dead 
  body" before it will happen! That was more than a decade ago and he 
  is still in Office.
  > 
  > In our lower body, the House I think a single Hearing did take 
  place many years ago to no avail of the cause of openness and 
  honesty in regards to UFO's. Several major Politicians did attempt to 
  find the truth about government withholding of information. Sen. 
  Barry Goldwater of Arizona holding strong Chairmanship in the Senate 
  even went to Wright-Patterson AFB and was repelled at gun point when 
  he insisted upon entering the legendary Hangar 18. President Jimmy 
  Carter made public promise to do all he could do to get the 
  information made public. He was instructed he did not possess 
  the "Need to Know" and had insufficient clearance to allow him to be 
  briefed on what they denied they had. 
  > And Area 51and all the rumors cannot be placed in the open 
  sunshine. 
  > 
  > Probably the most listened to radio talk on UFO comes from 
  http://coasttocoastam.com which has a listenership of about 40 
  million each night. 7 days a week. Much of it isaboutr UFO's, 
  Experiencers, Paramormal and many other unique subjects with a 
  plethora of popular guests. Tonight 10-24-08 the Guest Host for the 
  Program is Whitley Streiber who wrote the famous book "Communion." 
  It was the vehicle for his own personal experiance with the 
  extraterrestials.
  > 
  > Regards,
  > John
  > 
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  > usa as regards ufo
  > 
  > -------------- Original message -------------- 
  > From: "Anton Rozman" <anton_rozman@...> 
  > Hi John,
  > 
  > Thank you very much for your views. 
  > 
  > In my opinion the key information here is that there exists one 
  > another reality which was purposely hidden from us by our 
  governments 
  > and controlled agencies and media. So, it is up to courageous 
  > insiders to provide us their perspective on what is really going 
  on, 
  > while it is up to each of us to form our own understanding 
  comparing 
  > various sources. It is really good training to keep one's mind open.
  > 
  > You can find inteviews with very reliable people on:
  > http://www.projectcamelot.org/
  > 
  > But, in my view, even more important message for us as theosophists 
  > in this interview is that there are going on important changes on 
  > this world and that we can largely contribute that the passage will 
  > be less painful and more peaceful. If we will be able to solve our 
  > inner disagreements in a fraternal, constructive and innovative 
  > manner we will do our best service to the humanity.
  > 
  > Warmest regards,
  > Anton
  > 
  > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Augoeides-222@ wrote:
  > >
  > > Anton
  > > Well Bob Dean is a relatively respected personage in the UFO 
  > Arena but I can't see the basis for Nibiru as he speaks of it in 
  > present time. There are so many Astronomical Observatory's in many 
  > different nations, some of which would not necessarily squash 
  > knowledge of the presence of Niburu as related by Bob Dean and 
  would 
  > surely make public announcement. 
  > > There is according to Paval Smutny a former NASA Space 
  > Scientist, who specialized in Deep Space Communication and Orbital 
  > Mechanics as his primary NASA work an ancient record that describes 
  > it. He, in his personal studies relates a history of Nibiru 
  > (Nemesis, Phaeton, 12th Planet etc.) where it only makes a close 
  > approach proximate to the Earth a small number of times in every 
  > Solar Year (25,920 Years ( or 1 Cycle of the Constellational 
  Zodiac). 
  > Pavel Smutny now lives in Slovakia if I recall correctly. If you 
  > Google his name you will find his several websites that related his 
  > findings in regard to Nibiru. Also Google Dendara and the Senmut 
  > Temple, and The Darmer Pallete. In his description he extracts from 
  > the Egyptian record the approach , path and periodocity of the 12th 
  > Planet. He has, in my view one of the most interesting study to 
  show 
  > actual 12th Planet supported by alledged knowledge of the ancients 
  > which he thoroughly diagrammatically presents on his webpages.
  > > 
  > > I in my own view, have entertained a possibility that the 12th 
  > Planet may have made close approach during the second middle period 
  > of Tiahuanacu (15,450 BC ) as Bellamy and Allen have shown the 
  > catastrophic record of the passage engravened upon the andesite 
  > artifacts of Tiahuanacu. This occasion set in the mind of man a 
  > subconscious memory of the traumatic terror that prevailed 
  > consequential to the passage and capture of one of the 12th Planets 
  > Minor satellites and it's eventual disintetagration and rain of 
  it's 
  > pieces on the earth and is portrayed as the celestial dragon 
  belching 
  > fire and brimstone in the sky. The story of Osiris's battle with 
  > Typhon (the forces of space) and his being dismembered and his body 
  > parts scattered on the earth, with the lamenting Isis unable to 
  find 
  > his "organ" of regeneration (the core of the minor satellite the 
  fled 
  > into space when relieved of it's outer shells during the 
  catastrophe. 
  > Osiris was a Lunar Diety figure of the Egyptians..
  > > 
  > > Regards, 
  > > John
  > > 
  > > PS: Thanks for the Bob Dean links for his interview videos.
  > > -------------- Original message -------------- 
  > > From: "Anton Rozman" <anton_rozman@> 
  > > Hi all,
  > > 
  > > Maybe here is a little bigger picture:
  > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbgHyrmgRZM
  > > 
  > > Best regards,
  > > Anton
  > > 
  > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Cass Silva <silva_cass@> wrote:
  > > >
  > > > Also it will prove that we are the ancestors of the apes and 
  not 
  > > the other way around - can you expand on the heliosphere
  > > > 
  > > > Cass
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  > > > ________________________________
  > > > From: Martin <Mvandertak@>
  > > > To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
  > > > Sent: Thursday, 23 October, 2008 7:03:37 PM
  > > > Subject: Re: Theos-World British MPs back animal-human embryo 
  > > research
  > > > 
  > > > 
  > > > I wonder if the Solar Lords will dig this, they didn't in 
  > > Atlantis...the sun is btw very quiet at the moment and its 
  > > heliosphere has shrunk more than 25% the last 25 years...this 
  could 
  > > mean part destruction of this earth by cosmic fire.
  > > > 
  > > > --- On Thu, 10/23/08, nhcareyta <nhcareyta@yahoo. com.au> wrote:
  > > > From: nhcareyta <nhcareyta@yahoo. com.au>
  > > > Subject: Theos-World British MPs back animal-human embryo 
  research
  > > > To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
  > > > Date: Thursday, October 23, 2008, 4:49 AM
  > > > 
  > > > Britain's lower house of parliament has approved legislation 
  > > allowing 
  > > > 
  > > > scientists to create animal-human embryos for medical research, 
  > in 
  > > > 
  > > > the biggest shake-up of embryology laws in two decades.
  > > > 
  > > > Despite opposition from religious and pro-life groups, MPs in 
  the 
  > > > 
  > > > House of Commons today backed the Human Embryology and 
  > > Fertilisation 
  > > > 
  > > > Bill by 355 votes to 129. 
  > > > 
  > > > It will now go to a vote in the House of Lords, and could be 
  law 
  > by 
  > > > 
  > > > November.
  > > > 
  > > > The wide-ranging bill, which has been debated for months, would 
  > > also 
  > > > 
  > > > allow "saviour siblings" - children created as a close genetic 
  > > match 
  > > > 
  > > > for a sick brother or sister so their genetic material can help 
  > > treat 
  > > > 
  > > > them.
  > > > 
  > > > In addition, it gives lesbians and single women easier access 
  to 
  > in-
  > > > 
  > > > vitro fertilisation (IVF) treatment by removing requirements 
  for 
  > > > 
  > > > clinics to consider a child's need for a father.
  > > > 
  > > > Health Minister Dawn Primarolo told MPs the bill was about 
  > helping 
  > > > 
  > > > the one in seven couples who needed fertility assistance, and 
  > about 
  > > > 
  > > > research to deal with diseases such as Alzheimer's, which 
  affects 
  > > > 
  > > > 350,000 Britons.
  > > > 
  > > > Hybrid embryos, created by inserting the nuclei of a human cell 
  > > into 
  > > > 
  > > > an animal egg, can ensure a more plentiful supply of stem cells 
  > for 
  > > > 
  > > > use in research into treating conditions like Alzheimer's and 
  > > > 
  > > > Parkinson's.
  > > > 
  > > > "It is about research to deal with the dreadful diseases and 
  the 
  > > > 
  > > > debilitating attacks on their health from which many in our 
  > society 
  > > > 
  > > > suffer," the minister told MPs.
  > > > 
  > > > "The bill is about combining science with an ethical framework 
  > that 
  > > > 
  > > > works on behalf of humankind."
  > > > 
  > > > Prime Minister Gordon Brown is a strong defender of the 
  measures, 
  > > > 
  > > > saying Britain owes it to future generations. His son Fraser 
  has 
  > > > 
  > > > cystic fibrosis, a disease that could one day benefit from 
  embryo 
  > > > 
  > > > research.
  > > > 
  > > > However, 16 MPs from his ruling Labour party, including former 
  > > > 
  > > > minister Ruth Kelly, a staunch Catholic who quit the government 
  > > this 
  > > > 
  > > > month, voted against the bill and religious groups warned it 
  was 
  > > the 
  > > > 
  > > > next step on a "slippery slope".
  > > > 
  > > > Nadine Dorries, a member of the opposition Conservative Party, 
  > told 
  > > > 
  > > > her fellow MPs that loopholes in the legislation raised the 
  > > > 
  > > > possibility of scientists attempting cross-breeding between 
  > humans 
  > > > 
  > > > and animals.
  > > > 
  > > > "Of all the experimental possibilities debated in the course of 
  > > this 
  > > > 
  > > > bill, surely none is quite so utterly repulsive as the 
  > possibility 
  > > of 
  > > > 
  > > > seeking to inseminate animals with human sperm," she said.
  > > > 
  > > > The debate was overshadowed by complaints from all sides that 
  the 
  > > > 
  > > > government had blocked a discussion on reforming the abortion 
  > laws. 
  > > > 
  > > > Ministers suggested they did not think the current bill was the 
  > > right 
  > > > 
  > > > time to do this.
  > > > 
  > > > -AFP
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