Theos-Talk Archives (October 2008 Message tt00440)

Some day I will share with you my personal experience in the USA on this
matter.

mkr


On 10/16/08, Cass Silva <silva_cass@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>   Why is it that Adyar remains silent in disseminating theosophy - those
> that are there are supposed to be the most knowledgeable of all theosophists
> yet those in power remain silent about the latest scientific discoveries
> that have since proven HPB correct, nothing there - nada- just a commercial
> enterprise to purchase literature - surely the raisson dette of those in
> Adyar should be to disseminate theosophy to the masses but imo If it wasn't
> for the American-Australian-European TS websites we would still hold a 20th
> century mindset.
>
> If anyone asks me about theosophy I advice them to avoid Adyar - Leadbeater
> - and Besant (although her earlier good works go out with the nonsense that
> followed.
>
> Cass
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: MKR <mkr777@gmail.com <mkr777%40gmail.com>>
> To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, 16 October, 2008 10:28:19 PM
> Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: Countess Blavatskaya
>
> Many of those who post jokingly about HPB are long time members and know
> what real theosophy is and practice it in their daily life. They do not
> hold
> any offices.
>
> Those of us who have read the early history of TS, know HPB's sacrifices.
> (She did not take up the TS project after a comfortable retirement from
> another full-time job, she sacrificed prime of her life). Travel, food and
> accommodation in India in those days were quite difficult for a Westerner
> and both HPB and HSO never complained about it since they did not go there
> to enjoy a vacation.
>
> The had a mission, which was hard from every point of view. They both
> understood what the Adepts meant when when they were told that the success
> or failure of TS has a bearing on the salvation or failure of future of
> humanity.
>
> Compare this to the whining and complaining by some of today's so called
> "theosophists" who say how they cannot live at Adyar. Today Chennai, the
> city where Adyar is located, is a buzzing modern Industrial and Business
> hub where you can get conveniences comparable to anywhere in the world.
>
> So this contrast simply tells us that to many of today's theosophists,
> theosophy just seems to be another entertainment to keep them busy after
> retirement. If people cannot sacrifice, they should stop meddling, and they
> should get out of the way, and let others who are willing take up the work
> do the work. In my opinion, obstruction and selfishness are sure signs of
> Dugpas and Shammars activity impeding the work of TS.
>
> Any feedback?
> mkr
> On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 8:12 PM, Richard Semock <semockr@hotmail. com>
> wrote:
>
> > There is quite a cult of personality grown up about the founder but
> > do not let that obscure her real purpose which was the dissemination
> > of the ancient wisdom by the masters of the wisdom. HPB was uniquely
> > fitted for the mission and that is why she was chosen by them for the
> > task.
> >
> > That is of course, if you believe in the masters and their ancient
> > wisdom that they went to great lengths to demonstrate and offer
> > prooofs about thru her. HPB was all about being a channel for the
> > hidden knowledge but her gargantuan personality sometimes is
> > mistakenly given center stage.
> >
> > --- In theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com <theos-talk% 40yahoogroups. com>,
> > Drpsionic@.. . wrote:
> > >
> > > It was impossible to grow up in the US in the 1960s and have any
> > interest in
> > > the Occult without running into references to HPB but I pretty much
> > passed
> > > them over as stuff from a previous century. And somewhere along
> > the line I
> > > ran into a letter my family has written by my great great
> > grandfather when he
> > > was fighting with Garibaldi about a strange Russian noblewoman who
> > ran the
> > > brothel.
> > >
> > > Anyway, after a rather convoluted series of events I found myself
> > in the TS
> > > and paying a bit more attention to the biography of HPB and there
> > was this
> > > story about Garibaldi. And I wonder how many Russian noblewomen
> > were with
> > > Garibaldi and maybe someone was changing the story a bit.
> > >
> > > But hell, no one ever accused me of being a prude, not with my
> > lifestyle,
> > > and the story I think is true only makes her more interesting to me
> > for a simple
> > > reason. Blavatsky was not a statue in a church, not a saint, not
> > a
> > > goddess. She was a living, breathing human being.
> > >
> > > And in my decades in the TS I keep hearing stuff claimed about her
> > that sort
> > > of makes my head spin. There are people who will go berserk at
> > the thought
> > > that she might have had, gasp, sex. And there is the little
> > matter of the
> > > drug use, even though it was a pain killer and she needed pain
> > killers. Her
> > > body did not like her in her later years.
> > >
> > > She never intended that her ideas be holy writ, though she could
> > get
> > > downright abusive to those who had the temerity to remind her of
> > that. And she
> > > could be wrong, dead wrong about some things. And being a person
> > of her time she
> > > would naturally have ideas that would not stand the test of time.
> > Her words
> > > are to be taken as what they are, words, to be studied, questioned
> > and in
> > > the end either accepted or not. They are not golden drippings
> > from the nose of
> > > god, in spite of the ravings of the Judge worshippers. And they
> > are not the
> > > last word for the simple reason that there is no last word. And
> > those who
> > > regard her in that way do her a great disservice because when her
> > human
> > > weaknesses are discovered, there are people who get very
> > disappointed. Better to
> > > know that there is no idol than to have it fall over on you.
> > >
> > > Better to admire her for what she was, a person of extraordinary
> > energy and
> > > knowledge whose presence still looms over the world, who is a
> > source of
> > > inspiration for us and of horror to our enemies. Let us honor her
> > for that and at
> > > the same time have a good laugh at the extreme gravity of her
> > person which
> > > could break chairs and capsize boats if she looked over the side.
> > (I used to
> > > joke that she was the reason my family ended up in America because
> > she caused
> > > the Great Pasta Famine.)
> > >
> > > And let us never, ever forget her humanity.
> > >
> > > Chuck the Heretic
> > >
> > >
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