Theos-Talk Archives (October 2008 Message tt00382)

I imagine she was regarded by the Victorian British Aristocracy at the time as that meddling little relative of the Tsar causing nothing but trouble and dissention in the Empire - I imagine she operated in the Victorian system - well there was nothing outside of it to operate under - but as far as embracing it - I say no - I say she didn't appear to follow the social morays of her day.

Cass



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From: "Drpsionic@aol.com" <Drpsionic@aol.com>
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Sent: Thursday, 16 October, 2008 2:37:58 AM
Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: "...we have to preach and popularise a knowledge of theos...


That's just what I said!

Chuck the Heretic


In a message dated 10/15/2008 8:33:09 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
silva_cass@yahoo. com writes:

Well Chuck, you can't get away from the rellies no matter how hard you try. 
If she drew on her own inheritance I don't see a problem with it, at least 
it didn't come out of the public coffers. 

She wasn't bringing these teachings as a missionary but to well educated - 
well connected victorian intellectuals - how else would her works have been 
published had she been a little unknown russian gypsy fortune teller?

Cass

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Sent: Wednesday, 15 October, 2008 3:35:54 PM
Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: "...we have to preach and popularise a 
knowledge of theos...

Hardly. That is the image. The real HPB was always Countess Yelena 
Petrovna Blavatskaya, and although she dropped the Countess when she became 
an 
American citizen, she was always able to draw funds from the Russian 
government 
set aside by her family and her social rank opened a lot of doors that 
otherwise would have been slammed in her face. And that standing enabled her 
to get 
away with what she did.

She was a character, but she was very very much a part of her time even 
though she made fun of it, just like I am a part of my time even though I 
make 
fun of everything.

Now understand that I am not attacking HPB for any of this. It is merely 
important that we realize the essentials of her humanity and how they 
impacted 
her work. 

Chuck the heretic

In a message dated 10/14/2008 5:58:02 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
silva_cass@yahoo. com writes:

But Chuck, HPB sat outside the Victorian system and in fact mocked it 
through its religion and its social morays - smoking being a minor but prime 
example of not conforming to the 'ladylike" victorian image.

Cass

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Sent: Wednesday, 15 October, 2008 2:32:32 AM
Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: "...we have to preach and popularise a 
knowledge of theos...

I am saying that HPB was clearly wrong and when she said that she was merely 
being a person of her time and culture. She was being a good Victorian, 
wanting to create a social system for other people to live in. It was a sort 
of 
weird blip in the zeitgeist.

As to how, there are any number of systems, Zen coming to mind immediately.

Chuck the Heretic

In a message dated 10/14/2008 9:15:41 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
adelasie@sbcglobal. net writes:

Assuming you are making a serious statement, may I suggest that 
behavior is the path to enlightenment? When HPB said that (and I 
paraphrase) occultism is altruism, wasn't she suggesting that it is 
how we behave more than what we read that determines our progress in 
the evolution of consciousness? How does a person attain 
enlightenment in a material form without regard to behavior? 

Adelasie

On 13 Oct 2008 at 22:37, _Drpsionic@aol. Drp_ (mailto:Drpsionic@ On 13 Oct 
wrote:

> 
> No, it really doesn't. It just gets in the way at all kinds of 
> levels. And
> in regard to the nature of the cosmos it really does not matter. When 
> the
> Sun goes nova, the just and the unjust will fry alike.
> 
> We really need to separate behavior from enlightenment, otherwise we 
> will
> keep tripping over Musashi, who attained enlightenment by the process 
> of
> killing sixty three men in single combat.
> 
> Chuck the heretic

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