Theos-Talk Archives (October 2008 Message tt00378)

That's just what I said!
 
Chuck the Heretic
 
 
In a message dated 10/15/2008 8:33:09 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
silva_cass@yahoo.com writes:

 
 
 
Well Chuck, you can't get away from the rellies no matter how hard you  try.  
If she drew on her own inheritance I don't see a problem with it,  at least 
it didn't come out of the public coffers.  

She wasn't  bringing these teachings as a missionary but to well educated - 
well connected  victorian intellectuals - how else would her works have been 
published had she  been a little unknown russian gypsy fortune teller?

Cass

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From: "_Drpsionic@aol.Drp_ (mailto:Drpsionic@aol.com) " <_Drpsionic@aol.Drp_ 
(mailto:Drpsionic@aol.com) >
To: _theos-talk@yahoogrotheos-t_ (mailto:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com) 
Sent:  Wednesday, 15 October, 2008 3:35:54 PM
Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: "...we  have to preach and popularise a 
knowledge of theos...

Hardly. That is  the image. The real HPB was always Countess Yelena 
Petrovna Blavatskaya,  and although she dropped the Countess when she became 
an 
American citizen,  she was always able to draw funds from the Russian 
government 
set aside by  her family and her social rank opened a lot of doors that 
otherwise would  have been slammed in her face. And that standing enabled her 
to get 
away  with what she did.

She was a character, but she was very very much a  part of her time even 
though she made fun of it, just like I am a part of  my time even though I 
make 
fun of everything.

Now understand that I  am not attacking HPB for any of this. It is merely 
important that we  realize the essentials of her humanity and how they 
impacted 
her work.  

Chuck the heretic

In a message dated 10/14/2008 5:58:02 P.M.  Central Daylight Time, 
silva_cass@yahoo. com writes:

But Chuck, HPB  sat outside the Victorian system and in fact mocked it 
through its  religion and its social morays - smoking being a minor but prime 
example  of not conforming to the 'ladylike" victorian image.

Cass

-----  Original Message ----
From: "_Drpsionic@From: "_Drpsionic@<WBR>aol. Drp_From: 
"_Drps<_Drpsionic@_Drpsionic@<WB
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To: _theos-talk@ yahoogrotheos-  t_ (mailto:theos-To: _theos-talk@ yahoog
Sent: Wednesday, 15 October,  2008 2:32:32 AM
Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: "...we have to preach and  popularise a 
knowledge of theos...

I am saying that HPB was clearly  wrong and when she said that she was merely 
being a person of her time and  culture. She was being a good Victorian, 
wanting to create a social system  for other people to live in. It was a sort 
of 
weird blip in the  zeitgeist.

As to how, there are any number of systems, Zen coming to  mind immediately.

Chuck the Heretic

In a message dated  10/14/2008 9:15:41 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
adelasie@sbcglobal. net  writes:

Assuming you are making a serious statement, may I suggest that  
behavior is the path to enlightenment? When HPB said that (and I  
paraphrase) occultism is altruism, wasn't she suggesting that it is  
how we behave more than what we read that determines our progress in  
the evolution of consciousness? How does a person attain 
enlightenment  in a material form without regard to behavior? 

Adelasie

On 13  Oct 2008 at 22:37, _Drpsionic@aol. Drp_ (mailto:Drpsionic@ On 13 Oct  
wrote:

> 
> No, it really doesn't. It just gets in the way  at all kinds of 
> levels. And
> in regard to the nature of the  cosmos it really does not matter. When 
> the
> Sun goes nova, the  just and the unjust will fry alike.
> 
> We really need to  separate behavior from enlightenment, otherwise we 
> will
> keep  tripping over Musashi, who attained enlightenment by the process 
>  of
> killing sixty three men in single combat.
> 
> Chuck  the heretic

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