Re: Theos-World Re: YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO READ THE CONTROVERSIAL NEW PROPOSAL & EXPRESS YOUR OPINION
Sep 27, 2008 03:02 AM
by Erica Letzerich
I have see it here in Greece. Here also council members are elected by the members as well. Division of positions like: vice-president, secretary, treasure are according with the number of votes every candidate had. So to say first more voted for the council will be the vice-president, second more voted the secretary, third more voted the treasure. This actually works fine.
John Algeo, Wies Kuipers, Kim Dieu and Betty Bland for long time have been working and dedicating themselves to the T.S.. We must respect that. But their proposition to remove the members' right to vote was a fiasco.
Furthermore would be deeply unfair to give one vote only for a Section with more than 10 thousand members and 1 vote for a Section with 100 members. This equalization is non sense. Of course we cannot forget that was a proposition draft, not a final draft. By any event, there were many gaps on it, and the arguments were not solid.
Erica
--- On Sat, 9/27/08, Katinka Hesselink <mail@katinkahesselink.net> wrote:
From: Katinka Hesselink <mail@katinkahesselink.net>
Subject: Theos-World Re: YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO READ THE CONTROVERSIAL NEW PROPOSAL & EXPRESS YOUR OPINION
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, September 27, 2008, 5:06 AM
Actually most officers in the TS aren't so much elected as appointed
with the approval of the members (or the gen. council or whatever).
After all - have any of you seen two contesting candidates for a
function like the secretary, the chairperson or general secretary in
any of your sections or lodges? I sure haven't. It's one of the
reasons this last election was so exciting: we actually had a choice.
It's also one of the reasons I don't want the general secretary's to
choose the next president: I don't think any of them truly represent
the members.
Don't get me wrong: In this mess it might easily be forgotten that
these are the people that keep the TS going. I'm very glad someone
does, because in my opinion the TS still has a part to play in the
spiritual evolution of humanity.
I really am thankful to John Algeo, Wies Kuipers, Kim Dieu and Betty
Bland for helping in keeping this thing going. (I write that knowing
full well it's often a thankless and full time job)
However, that just doesn't mean I want them to decide for me. Nor does
it mean I don't care about the TS. And this whole things shows that a
lot of other people care about the TS as well.
As far as me getting any specific official role in the TS (other than
being one of the webmasters of the Dutch TS website) - we will just
have to leave that to the future. There are important things going on
now and as members we have to show our general secretaries we care.
I just hope people are mailing their general secretaries how they feel
about this issue and voting in my poll.
http://www.squidoo. com/theosophical -organisation- 08
Katinka Hesselink
http://www.allconsi dering.com/
http://www.katinkah esselink. net/
--- In theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com, "Frank Reitemeyer" <dzyan@...> wrote:
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> Martin, Katinka,
>
> so far as I know, the position of corresponding secretary was vacant
after Blavatsky's death in 1891.
> For those who followed the mother society of New York the post was
vacant for a septenary, until in 1898 Katherine Tingley assumed the post.
>
> I would like to know, whether another person held this post during
the last 100 or so years?
>
> And so far as I know, both persons I know of who hold this post as
CS were not elected to this post.
>
> So Katinka should find a modus operandi to get this post.
>
> Frank
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Katinka Hesselink
> To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 3:39 PM
> Subject: Re: Theos-World YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO READ THE CONTROVERSIAL
NEW PROPOSAL & EXPRESS YOUR OPINION
>
>
> :)
> Well, I think that my recent activities have done nothing to make
> anyone near the center of TS power believe I'm ready - So I don't
> think I'll have to face that temptation any time soon.
>
> Anyhow, I think I'm more suited to the position of corresponding
> secretary. Do you think they might reinstall that position just for
> me? Not likely, is it? The American Section still has that office
> though. Should I move to the USA just for that reason? [only partly
> joking]
>
> Katinka Hesselink
>
> http://www.allconsi dering.com/
> http://www.katinkah esselink. net/
>
> --- In theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com, Martin <Mvandertak@ > wrote:
> >
> > Katinka, that can change in a split second...Power seems to have
> that mysterious 'knowing' attached...
> >
> > --- On Fri, 9/26/08, Katinka Hesselink <mail@> wrote:
> >
> > From: Katinka Hesselink <mail@>
> > Subject: Re: Theos-World YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO READ THE CONTROVERSIAL
> NEW PROPOSAL & EXPRESS YOUR OPINION
> > To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
> > Date: Friday, September 26, 2008, 11:07 AM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Martin,
> >
> > Thanks for the vote of confidence. I don't think I'm ready for
> > anything like that though.
> >
> > Katinka Hesselink
> > http://www.allconsi dering.com/
> > http://www.katinkah esselink. net/
> >
> > --- In theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com, Martin <Mvandertak@ ...> wrote:
> > >
> > > I vote for Katinka to be the next president of the TS, she is fresh,
> > witty and has done a lot of good work sofar, especially using modern
> > time 'media'. However I am not a member of the TS-Adyar so I can only
> > tell what I feel.
> > >
> > > --- On Fri, 9/26/08, t_s_theosophist <THEOSOPHIST@ ...> wrote:
> > >
> > > From: t_s_theosophist <THEOSOPHIST@ ...>
> > > Subject: Theos-World YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO READ THE CONTROVERSIAL NEW
> > PROPOSAL & EXPRESS YOUR OPINION
> > > To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
> > > Date: Friday, September 26, 2008, 6:00 AM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
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> > > Your Opportunity To Read The Controvesial Proposal & Express
> Yourself.
> > >
> > > Dear Fellow Theosophists;
> > >
> > > Katinka Hesselink has provided us a valuable service to read and
> > express ourselves about the Controversial Proposal before the T.S.
> > General Council.
> > >
> > > Everyone has access to this, and Everyone is invited to respond with
> > their thoughts and opinion.
> > >
> > > This is a Important forum that will let the T.S. General Council
> > know how Theosophists around the world feel about this and related
> > issues....
> > >
> > > TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS GIFT FROM KATINKA AND .....LET THEM KNOW WHAT
> > YOU THINK.
> > >
> > > Fraternally;
> > > William Delahunt
> > > Orlando, Florida,
> > > Member of the T.S. Since 1969
> > > Theosophist@ webtv.net
> > > http://www.tso- orlando.org
> > >
> > > Please Circulate This To Other Theosophists You Know Of, And Share
> > With Your Lodges
> > > And Groups.
> > >
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> > > TEXT OF PROPOSED CHANGES
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> > > (Click link)
> > > http://www.katinkah esselink. net/other/ Theosophical- soc-reg-08.
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> > >
> > > SPECIAL BLOG & POLL OF REPONSES
> > > CLICK HERE TO EXPRESS YOUR OPINION AND READ WHAT OTHERS HAVE SAID.
> > >
> > > (click link)
> > > http://www.squidoo. com/theosophical -organisation- 08
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