Theos-Talk Archives (September 2008 Message tt00189)

Yes, exactly, no time, no space, nothingness.  And then, from 13  billion 
years in the future there is this big banging noise and a bunch of  physicists 
going, "Hmm, we never quite expected that to happen."
 
But think of all the fun we will have when our Christian brethren try the  
old, "Who created the Big Bang?" line on us and we can say, "We did!"
 
To quote our southern friends, Yeeehaaa!!
 
Chuck the Heretic
 
 
In a message dated 9/24/2008 8:12:16 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
silva_cass@yahoo.com writes:

 
 
 
Yeah your right, weak and strong forces arising from a sea of  nothingness.
Cass

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From: "_Drpsionic@aol.Drp_ (mailto:Drpsionic@aol.com) " <_Drpsionic@aol.Drp_ 
(mailto:Drpsionic@aol.com) >
To: _theos-talk@yahoogrotheos-t_ (mailto:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com) 
Sent:  Wednesday, 24 September, 2008 1:57:45 PM
Subject: Re: Theos-World Re:  Daniel, why don't you warn readers about 
Blavatsky's mist...

I think  the physicists have a somewhat different explanation.

Chuck the  Heretic

In a message dated 9/23/2008 8:38:52 P.M. Central Daylight  Time, 
silva_cass@yahoo. com writes:

Uncertainty? Only because the  higher spiritual energies rely on the lower 
elemental energies to convert  to matter - and these little tackers can 
sometimes get it  wrong.

Cass

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From:  "_Drpsionic@From:  "_Drpsionic@<WBR>aFrom:  
"_Drps<_Drpsionic@_Drpsionic
(mailto:Drpsionic@(mailto:Dr>
To:  _theos-talk@ yahoogrotheos- t_ (mailto:theos-To:  _theos-talk@ yahoog
Sent: Wednesday, 24 September, 2008 1:29:35 AM
Subject: Re: Theos-World  Re: Daniel, why don't you warn readers about 
Blavatsky's mist...

If  Theosophy is anything, it is ambiguous. The cosmos is built upon  
uncertainty.

Chuck the Heretic

In a message dated 9/23/2008  7:36:04 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
silva_cass@yahoo. com  writes:

Theosophy is a philosophy not a religion and as a philosophy it  must be 
coherent and without ambiguity. Leadbeater brought ambiguity into  theosophy 
by 
preaching opposing dogma to what was stated by the  originators. Dugpas are 
Masters of Uncertainty!

Cass

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From: Martin <_Mvandertak@ yahoo.Mva_  (mailto:Mvandertak@ _Mvandertak@ >
To: _theos-talk@ yahoogrotheos- t_  (mailto:theos- To: _theos-talk@ yahoog
Sent: Tuesday, 23 September, 2008  8:40:10 PM
Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: Daniel, why don't you warn readers  about 
Blavatsky's mistakes ?

Aren't we all believing in lies and  half Truths?
Theosophy is wisdom of the gods it is said; if we want to  believe in the 
Truth we need to go for Ethymo-sophia or the wisdom of the  Real or reality 
and 
not some poxy stuff about gods, philosophers and  scientists. Reality is now 
and not in the past nor the future; we can use  the now springboarding into 
eternity.
If there was so much truth in  theosophy, why are people still discussing it 
instead of launching new  ideas coming from the same source and developing 
f.i. anthroposophy and  alike science...

--- On Tue, 9/23/08, Cass Silva <silva_cass@  silva_cass> wrote:

From: Cass Silva <silva_cass@  silva_cass>
Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: Daniel, why don't you warn  readers about 
Blavatsky's mistakes ?
To: theos-talk@yahoogro  ups.com
Date: Tuesday, September 23, 2008, 2:23 AM

Daniel 
Anand  will never admit that Leadbeater got it wrong because he would then 
have  to admit that he (Anand) has spent 40 years in believing in  lies.

Cass

----- Original Message ----
From: Anand  <AnandGholap@ gmail.com>
To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
Sent:  Monday, 22 September, 2008 7:05:53 PM
Subject: Theos-World Re: Daniel, why  don't you warn readers about 
Blavatsky's mistakes ?

Subject of  Theosophy, as understood by world and students of
Theosophy, is complex.  When I read messages of students of Blavatsky
and messages of students of  CWL, I find that what they understand
Theosophy and it's main concepts is  very different. That means
Theosophical understanding of students of  Blavatsky is different from
understanding of students of Leadbeater.  Differences are big and on
important topics. It is possible that HPB and  CWL had same meaning in
mind but expressed that in different words. But  their impact is
certainly different on people. If somebody is referring  Theosophy, I
might ask "are you talking about Theosophy of Blavatsky or are  you
talking about Theosophy of Besant-Leadbeater ?"
Similarly reactions  of westerners and Christians to Theosophy depend
on what they consider as  Theosophy. When they consider Blavatsky's
writing as Theosophy, they  ridicule, hate Theosophy. Such hatred is
not expressed by those Christians  who consider CWL's writing as Theosophy.
I have come to a point where it is  necessary to make clear distinction
between Theosophy of Leadbeater-Besant  and Theosophy of Blavatsky. As
these two are different and have different  effects on people, I feel
that such distinction is very necessary. It is  because we often come
in contact with students of Blavatsky not agreeing  with students of
Leadbeater and CWL-students ignoring Blavatsky's writing.  
I am also feeling a need of writing article making it clear  which
Theosophy I support and which Theosophy I reject. I agreed with  CWL,
but I did not agree with Krishnamurti. I felt Krishnamurti' s  teaching
would do damage to humanity. So I rejected openly K's teaching,  just
as Catholic church openly rejects abortion and gay marriage.
I feel  that I should now write article on which Theosophical ideas I
support and  which Theosophical ideas I reject.
Best
Anand Gholap

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