Theos-Talk Archives (July 2008 Message tt00161)

--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Anand" <AnandGholap@...> wrote:
>
> Dear William,
> You are assuming that the World-Teacher or Christ taught through J.
> Krishnamurti. After studying this matter I came to a conclusion that
> World Teacher project actually failed. That means World Teacher did
> not teach through Krishnamurti. J. Krishnamurti was being prepared for
> that, however the project failed later. I know it is shocking to many
> members of TS, who are made to believe that Christ taught through
> Krishnamurti.
> I have written one article on this subject
> http://www.anandgholap.net/Failure_Of_J_Krishnamurti.htm
> 
> Regards.
> Anand Gholap
> 
> 
> 
> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "t_s_theosophist" <THEOSOPHIST@>
> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Anand" <AnandGholap@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear William,
> > > Your message sounded impressive, but the biggest problem with
> > > Krishnamurti's teaching is he is wrong at fundamental level. 
> > > On these most important points he was wrong.
> > > 
> > > > What Krishnamurti Did do was to denounce the reliance on any
> > > oganization, or outside persona 
> > > > no matter who that person was or claimed to be. He taught that you
> > > do not need organizations, you do not need Gurus, you do not need
> > > Priests or intermediaries. Look to Ishvar Guru, the Atman within, this
> > > is the Only Guru you need. 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Please consider the teachings of advanced disciples like Blavatsky,
> > > Subba Rao, Annie Besant, C. W. Leadbeater, Damodar Mavlankar.
> > > According to them even if a disciple should become self-reliant,
> > > contempt of Guru is not at all justified at any stage on the path of
> > > discipleship. As we know Blavatsky learned many things in Tibetan
> > > Ashram, which is obviously a small organization. So Krishnamurti's
> > > teaching is wrong at fundamental level, though he managed to impressed
> > > people by telling some other good truths which he learned from Annie
> > > Besant and Leadbeater.
> > > Best,
> > > Anand Gholap
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ================
> > 
> > Dear Bro Anand;
> > 
> > I respect You and your right to hold your views, But I fundamentally
> Dis-agree with you.
> > 
> > H.P.B., Annie Besant & C.W.L. were all disciples of the Masters of
> Wisdom,from the Great Brotherhood.
> > As their representatives they gave us certain teachings which we
> know as "Theosophy." I am in agreement with you that both Annie Besant
> and C.W.L. are Great Saints and follow and respect their
> interpretation of Theosophy.
> > 
> > It is "The Brotherhood" which we must look to as the actual "Source
> " of our teachings and Not any particular discple, however much we may
> admire them. We are told that at the head of The Brotherhood a Great
> August Being known as "The World Teacher" is one of the presiders
> along with others. 
> > 
> > Disciples however advanced they may be, and have certain advanced
> Vision, are still human beings subject to minor error and confusion of
> interpretation.
> > 
> > When the World Teacher speaks no disciple would be presumptious
> enough to condradict Him, as at His State of Being includes Superior
> Vision and Wisdom. 
> > 
> > Krishnaurti was the expression of The World Teacher, and his message
> does Not contradict Theosophy,
> > rather it is a Fulfilment of Theosophy.
> > 
> > I think that it may be OUR interpretion of Theosophy that needs
> adjustment.  
> > 
> > Warm Fraternal Greetings;
> > 
> > William Delahunt
> > Orlando, Forida
> > 
> > Theosophist@
> > http://www.tso-orlado.org
> > 
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> >
>



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Dear Bor. Anand;

Again I must radically Dis-agree with you.

The World Teacher Project Did NOT fail, people were Not prepared to receive the message because of their pre-conceptions, expectations and pre-determined conclusions.

When "The Brotherhood" and the Heirarchy plan events...they do Not fail. Their superior evolutionary powers and vision
is much greater than our current
ability...Yes, WE can fail, and we often do. But they are behind us encouraging us to Get up and keep on going. Live & Learn, this is the School of Life.

Again I say It is Prudent for us
that we develope the ability to maintain an Open Mind and not want to jump to conclusions.

We should Hold our Opinions Lightly and allow for change.
We can make "Provisional" conclusions, however always subject to modification when new information is received. 

The Emergent Reality must have 
Open Space if we are to interpret it without distortion.

Fraternal Best Wishes

William Delahunt
Orlando, Florida

Theosophist@webtv.net
http://www.tso-orlando.org


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