Theos-Talk Archives (July 2008 Message tt00066)

Yes.
But let us becareful with our use of words.

The use of the word "him" about ParaBrahman or the Unmanifest is not good.
ParaBrahman or the Unmanifest "is" beyond thought, time and space.
It "is" beyond unconditioned compassionate non-duality.
It is neither something or nothing. But both and none of these. It "is" Neti Neti - Not this and Not that.


M. Sufilight
 

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: revigani 
  To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 8:51 AM
  Subject: Re: Theos-World Election results - GOD part 3


  Thank you for brother.  I am sure that God is speaking to Arjuna in your quotation.  So there is God.  The Unmanifest, the Infinite, the All in all is God.  The Bible says, "God is  spirit (The Unmanifest) and those who worship Him must worship Him in spirit (connecting to the Unmanifest) and truth" (Jn 4:24).
   
  I want to learn more.  Bless you.
   
  Rev. Igani

  --- On Wed, 7/2/08, Morten Nymann Olesen <global-theosophy@stofanet.dk> wrote:

  From: Morten Nymann Olesen <global-theosophy@stofanet.dk>
  Subject: Re: Theos-World Election results - GOD part 3
  To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
  Date: Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 2:03 PM

  To all readers

  My views are:

  From The Bhagavad Gita (The Song Celestial)

  "The worlds, Arjuna! -- even Brahma's world -- 
  Roll back again from Death to Life's unrest;
  But they, O Kunti's Son! that reach to Me,
  Taste birth no more. If ye know Brahma's Day
  Which is a thousand Yugas; if ye know
  The thousand Yugas making Brahma's Night,
  Then know ye Day and Night as He doth know!
  When that vast Dawn doth break, th' Invisible
  Is brought anew into the Visible;
  When that deep Night doth darken, all which is
  Fades back again to Him Who sent it forth;
  Yea! this vast company of living things -- 
  Again and yet again produced -- expires
  At Brahma's Nightfall; and, at Brahma's Dawn,
  Riseth, without its will, to life new-born.
  But -- higher, deeper, innermost -- abides
  Another Life, not like the life of sense,
  Escaping sight, unchanging. This endures
  When all created things have passed away;
  This is that Life named the Unmanifest,
  The Infinite! the All! the Uttermost.
  Thither arriving none return. That Life
  Is Mine, and I am there! And, Prince! by faith
  Which wanders not, there is a way to come
  Thither. I, the PURUSHA, I Who spread
  The Universe around me -- in Whom dwell
  All living Things -- may so be reached and seen!"
  (The Song Celestial, by Edwin Arnold - Chapter VIII; v16-22)

  - - - - - - -

  M. Sufilight is a witness on the truth about: "Thither arriving none return."

  Happy heartflows to all.

  M. Sufilight

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: revigani 
  To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 10:10 AM
  Subject: Re: Theos-World Election results

  What is the view of Theosophy on the existence of God?

  Rev. Igani

  --- On Wed, 7/2/08, Anand <AnandGholap@ gmail.com> wrote:

  From: Anand <AnandGholap@ gmail.com>
  Subject: Re: Theos-World Election results
  To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
  Date: Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 4:42 AM

  --- In theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com, "prmoliveira" <prmoliveira@ ...> wrote:
  >
  > --- In theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com, "Anand" <AnandGholap@ > wrote:
  > 
  > 
  > > > "Be what he may, once that a student abandons the old and trodden 
  > > > highway of routine, and enters upon the solitary path of 
  > independent 
  > > > thought--Godward --he is a Theosophist; an original thinker, a 
  > seeker 
  > > > after the eternal truth with "an inspiration of his own" to solve 
  > the 
  > > > universal problems." (The Theosophist, October 1879)
  > 
  > 
  > > HPB uses word "independent thought -Godward" It implies belief of 
  > HPB
  > > in the existence of God. 
  > > 
  > > Anand Gholap
  > 
  > Anand,
  > 
  > She is describing her view of what a Theosophist is: "an original 
  > thinker, a seeker after the eternal truth with "an inspiration of his 
  > own" to solve the universal problems." 
  > 
  > The question could be asked: what is the view about the "God 
  > question" of someone who "enters upon the solitary path of 
  > independent thought"?
  > 
  > As I see it, HPB is describing the qualities of a mind and 
  > consciousness that can indeed inquire into life's deeper aspects. Her 
  > approach, as usual, is not belief-based but inquiry-based. 
  > 

  Pedro,

  When HPB said " independent thought--Godward ", it means she accepted
  that God exists. This acceptance can be a belief or it can be because
  of direct experience of God. She does not say here whether her
  acceptance is because on belief or experience or inquiry. But the
  important thing here is HPB accepts existence of God. 

  Anand Gholap

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