Theos-Talk Archives (June 2008 Message tt00135)

To all readers


My views are:


Anyone can be mislead by anything. And what is leading one person towards liberation and Moksha - is misleading another into falsness and ignorance.



1.
Anand wrote:
"I have good relations with many Jesuits."

Sure, I expected that.
:-)

Are you saying that there are no Christian's and in false sheeps clothes pretending to be humble, mild and meek?

So you are saying that the Jesuit Loyola doctrine is not a teaching on black magic?



2.
Anand wrote:
"And because of her own shortcomings
she attracted opposition from many different people."


And you are saying that towards a high initiate who were able to materialise and dematerialise her physical body at will?


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Theosophists have their own methods of dettering unsuitable people.
You may only know one or two ways. Pay attention to the techniques
which, for instance, deter by compelling people to conclude that
they are worthless.

***

What you may take to be attractive, or even spread out by us
to be attractive to you, may well not be intended in this manner at
all. That which attracts you, or others, about us may be that
which is laid down by us as a tool which enables us to regard
you (or others) as unsuitable.***

If you carry the habit of judging things into an area where it
does not apply, you will judge in a manner which will not
correspond with your needs.

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You cannot work on a higher level entirely with the concepts,
language and experiences of a lower level. Higher level work
is in a combination of manners and relationships.
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H. S. Olcott said in 1905:
"We have spoken above of the dissolution of a gem magically created. If the reader will refer to O.D.L., I, 197 and 198, he will see that the first picture of "Chevalier Louis," precipitated by H.P.B. on a certain evening, had faded out by the next morning, but that when she again caused it to appear, at Mr. Judge's request, she had "fixed" it so that it remains unchanged to the present time of writing. My explanation of that is that it depended entirely upon the adept operator whether he should make a fugitive precipitation of the thought-picture, leaving it to be acted upon and dissipated by the attraction of space, or on making the deposit of pigment, cut off the current which connected it with space and so leaving it a permanent pigmentary deposit on the paper or other surface. In fact I strongly advise anyone who wants to get at the mysteries of Count St-Germain, Cagliostro and other wonder-workers, to read in connection with them the various accounts of H.P.B's phenomena which have been published by credible witnesses. Take for example the quotation made by Mrs Cooper-Oakley from the "Souvenirs de Marie-Antoinette." by the Countess d'Adhémar, who had been an intimate friend of the Queen and who died in 1822. She is giving an interesting account of an interview between Her Majesty, the Count de Maurepas, herself and St-Germain. The last-named had paid Mme D'Adhémar a visit of momentous importance to the Royal family and to France, had departed and the minister, M. de. Maurepas, had come in and was slandering St-Germain outrageously, calling him a rogue and a charlatan. Just as he had said that he would send him to the Bastille, the door opened and St-Germain entered, to the consternation of M. de Maurepas and the great surprise of the Countess. Stepping majestically up to the Minister, St-Germain warned him that he was ruining both monarchy and kingdom by his incapacity and stubborn vanity, and ended with these words: "Expect no homage from posterity, frivolous and incapable Minister! You will be ranked among those who cause the ruin of empires." . . . "M. De Saint-Germain, having spoken thus without taking breath, turned towards the door again, shut it and disappeared. . . All efforts to find the Count failed," Compare this with the several disappearances of H.P.B. in and near Karli Caves and elsewhere, and see how the two agents of the Brotherhood employed identical means for making themselves invisible at the critical moment."



Appearntly C. W. Leadbeater in your eyes were on a much higher level and more "Christian level" than H. P. Blavatsky?
Is this what you are saying?

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Let us not turn beliefs and assumptions into Knowledge, when we do not have this knowledge.



M. Sufilight


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Anand 
  To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 12:46 PM
  Subject: Re: Theos-World J. Krishnamurti and beautiful Rosalind Rajagopal



  > H. P. Blavatsky wrote about the plot of the Jesuits 
  > ". . . . . It would be well perhaps, if the Jesuits contented
  themselves with making dupes of Freemasons and opposing the
  Theosophists and Occultists using for it the Protestant clergy as
  "cat's paw." But their plottings have a much wider scope, and embrace
  a minuteness of detail and care of which the world in general has no
  idea. Everything is done by them to bring the mass of mankind again to
  the state of passive ignorance which they well know is the only one
  which can help them to the consummation of their purpose of Universal
  Despotism." 
  > (from THE LETTERS OF H. P. BLAVATSKY to A. P. SINNETT and OTHER
  MISCELLANEOUS LETTERS TRANSCRIBED, COMPILED, AND WITH AN INTRODUCTION
  By A. T. BARKER. First Published 1925)

  I have good relations with many Jesuits. I have observed their life
  and what they teach. Most of them live very simple life, even if they
  could have earned wealth. Most of them are celibate, which is hard
  thing to observe. They teach virtues to their followers. Many of them
  are among the most cultured, civilized and learned people. So if
  anybody says that all Jesuits are bad, I disagree. 

  Blavatsky might be opposed by some Jesuits. But partly Blavatsky
  herself was responsible for it. And because of her own shortcomings
  she attracted opposition from many different people. And she retaliated. 
  Krishnamurti misleads people on wholesale scale. Blavatsky's some
  statements mislead people on retail scale.

  Anand Gholap



   

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